Re: 64 Dodge went to the track last night
[Re: sjs64polara]
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07/29/09 03:10 PM
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Dyno'd with manifolds and switched to 2" TTI's becasue of heat issues.
I agree, I need seat time, practice with burn outs and launches
if you switched to TTI's after the dyno session, i would definitely shift the car around 5800-6000 and i bet you see a slight pickup of about 5 hundredths.to probably a .1 i did with almost the same combo. also change out that converter to at least a 4000-4500 stall.
Change stall even with with max torque at 2900 (650 ft lbs)
your max torque was with exhaust manifolds that choke the performance of your motor, did you have mufflers on the car when you dynoed the motor, if so were the dumps uncorked. i have been racing max wedge cars for a very long time and i know how to get almost every possible amount of HP out of them. when you went to TTI's i bet your peak torque is probably at 3400 rpms now from my experience. also peak torque really drops off with a OE crossram.
also what is your jetting on your crossram, there is a specific jet staggering that is required to get the maximum hp out of the the motor.
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Re: 64 Dodge went to the track last night
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07/29/09 03:24 PM
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Yes it was on a dyno. My last dyno #s were 550 hp at 5300 and 650 torque at 2900. I've made updates since that is why I said 590-600 hp
Your dyno #s and your weight / MPH don't add up. Whether its the result of subsequent parts changes, current state of tune, converter issues (excessive slippage), etc., you're way down on MPH from what 550 HP "should" show in MPH, even at almost 4100#.
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Re: 64 Dodge went to the track last night
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07/29/09 04:29 PM
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Didnt shift higher then 5500. A&A 727 trans w/ 9.5" 3500 Dynamic converter
Shouldnt the car be around 115 MPH. only about 15-20 cars were at track and it got damp out last night. Maybe I just had too much tire slip?
I believe you should be running around 115 with that much HP. Dont know what cam you have but shiting at 5500 seems kinda low. I had to baby my Challenger off the line and ran 115 at 12.3 and I had less hp. trap speed is a sign of HP..but your trap speed does match your ET pretty good, imho.
BTW, I love your car!
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Re: 64 Dodge went to the track last night
[Re: 383man]
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07/30/09 07:51 PM
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I am curious of where you have your total timing set ? Ron
Dyno loved 36 deg so I nevered changed it
Here is an odd thing, trap rpm was well over 5700. that doesnt add up with my gear and tire diameter That rpm should have been over 117mph. Tire slip + newbee driver
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Re: 64 Dodge went to the track last night
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07/31/09 11:24 AM
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I am curious of where you have your total timing set ? Ron
Dyno loved 36 deg so I nevered changed it
Here is an odd thing, trap rpm was well over 5700. that doesnt add up with my gear and tire diameter That rpm should have been over 117mph. Tire slip + newbee driver
Not tire slip..converter slip.
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Re: 64 Dodge went to the track last night
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07/31/09 06:36 PM
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Re: 64 Dodge went to the track last night
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07/31/09 07:54 PM
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I agree,it should go faster. Tire slipis not the only problem. MPH is low. Were you running with the air claeners in place? That could be a big chunk of it. Beware of 40 degrees timing . It may be quicker but I've seen a few torched decks. For what its worth back in the day my Roadrunner would run 13.60@107 on 255 60 15 T/As. The very first pass with slicks was 12.32@114. Your combo will improve. My buddys 65 belvedere with a low rise dual 4,906 heads,557 Mopar cam runs 11.50 @115 all the time. I'll bet yours will be quicker. Doug
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Re: 64 Dodge went to the track last night
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07/31/09 08:12 PM
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Standard port, 906 heads with Rick Allison intake
Do you know how the heads flowed? I know its hard to get them much over 250-265 CFM with out making them crack. My point is, you may not be making as much HP as you think simply because the heads wont support it. Your cam should work good with those heads, but being only in the .540 lift area would also limit HP. But that said, I too think you should run mid 11s easy...like was mentioned with all that TQ you may need a tighter convertor.
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