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Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: Neil] #421326
08/01/09 11:12 PM
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It stopped being "mine" once it left the Orange County border and headed for "NorCal"

Besides, I am busy enough myself with an engine swap..

Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: Neil] #421327
08/01/09 11:43 PM
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If it's "your" engine then how come you aren't over there helping?




Oz lives in SoCal. They are afraid to set foot in NorCal because they know we'll kill and eat them.

That is an LA cover/pump on a Magnum block as Oz stated. All sorts of fun little bugs to iron out, from the alternator not fitting, having to bend my throttle bracket, to the fact that the Magnum bypass hose is straight and the LA one is angled.

I am running a Comp Cams XE 264/270* .480" and had the heads which I also got from Oz, machined for the recommended valvesprings.

Performer RPM Air Gap

Speed Demon 750 vac. sec. carb

TTi's!

The 904 has the 2.74/1.54 swap with the 5 clutch drum and a MP "145K" torque converter. I am wondering if I should order the 166K or the 175K unit?

The rear as I mentioned before is a 8.25 with 3.21:1's

Ideally it would be a Supra R154 5 speed:
* First Gear: 3.250:1
* Second Gear: 1.955:1
* Third Gear: 1.310:1
* Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
* Fifth Gear: 0.753:1

Since it has overdrive I would like to run 3:91's but I hear anything over a 9.5 combined is overkill on the street.

3.25 x 3.21 = 10.43. First is too low? Second is too high to launch in with this trans as well, then?

Maybe I need 2.94's with that tranny for a 9.5?

I am running a 215/65 R15 if that helps.

Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: Just Cameron] #421328
08/01/09 11:54 PM
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nice work, man!
I recently had to replace the clutch in my 73 Rallye Charger, I decided to go ahead and pull my engine (LA 360) to paint it and the engine bay... here is before and after pics.
Jason




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Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: JAAK] #421329
08/02/09 12:04 AM
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Wow. I should be telling you "nice work, man!"

Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: Just Cameron] #421330
08/02/09 10:24 AM
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Cool project, keep the pictures coming. You Cali guys are lucky its only road grime and grease that you have to clean off of things. Did I mention I hate rust ? !

Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: Just Cameron] #421331
08/02/09 10:36 AM
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Oz lives in SoCal. They are afraid to set foot in NorCal because they know we'll kill and eat them




You were afraid to come get the engine if I recall..

At least we don't eat people down here....

Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: OzHemi] #421332
08/02/09 11:06 AM
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You're gonna have a blast with that motor in there. Looks good, keep the pics coming !

Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: SRT6776] #421333
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You'll only have a blast when its in there if you don't have some horrifying valvetrain tick like I do

Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: sharpie] #421334
08/02/09 12:34 PM
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Looking good man. Did the heads have any work done to them? Are they standard magnum castings or? It would probably like a little head work, a little more cam, a little more converter, and a little more gear. For driveability I'd say don't take my advise. For maximum fun I'd say DO take my advise.

Better yet, get it running, bring it up here and I'll let you use my shop and "help"


Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: OzHemi] #421335
08/02/09 12:41 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

Oz lives in SoCal. They are afraid to set foot in NorCal because they know we'll kill and eat them




You were afraid to come get the engine if I recall..





Yeah, I made my cousin who lives south of YOU go get it. It sat in his front yard for about a year.

Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: Jeremiah] #421336
08/02/09 12:45 PM
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Looking good man. Did the heads have any work done to them? Are they standard magnum castings or? It would probably like a little head work, a little more cam, a little more converter, and a little more gear. For driveability I'd say don't take my advise. For maximum fun I'd say DO take my advise.

Better yet, get it running, bring it up here and I'll let you use my shop and "help"






Stock heads other that work for the valve springs.

It'll still be a fire-breather compared to my old stock-piston '73 318.

I ordered a stroker kit to go 408 and was planning more cam, head work, etc. but then Snap-On laid us all off so I re-sold the stroker kit and went closer to stock.

Kinda wish I'd just bought a $5K crate 408 looking back on it, but in a few years I can always pull it back out again and go crazy on it.

Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: Just Cameron] #421337
08/02/09 12:55 PM
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I'd be very happy with where you are at. The 408 stroker combo is awesome with a good set of heads and a solid roller but it will rip your car apart without having the frame ties and a roll bar. That was pretty much the demise of my Valiant although it was a four speed.

It looks like you will have a good car for a little road tripping.

If you end up short on any odds and ends give me a shout and I'll overnight stuff if I have it/can find it.

Get to work!

We want burnout pics! ... in a ritzxy neighborhood too.

Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: Just Cameron] #421338
08/02/09 12:56 PM
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I WANT A 360 Magnum CRATE MOTOR SO BAD!!!!!!

Re: 360 swap day 6 today. update PICS! [Re: midnite360] #421339
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Nice motor! That should be enough to kill some mustangs..hehe I like those business coupes, too, and the challenger...and the dog

Re: 360 swap day 3 today. update PICS! [Re: Just Cameron] #421340
08/02/09 06:34 PM
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Quote:

TTI's arrived this afternoon!

Once I got the old V=belt pulleys switched over (I am using an LA-style water pump)discovered that my old alternator with the stock brackets does not clear the Magnum head casting.




ran into that a week ago. I spaced everything out 1/4"


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Re: 360 swap day 3 today. update PICS! [Re: patrick] #421341
08/06/09 07:21 PM
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well Cam....how's it comin?

Re: 360 swap day 3 today. update PICS! [Re: FrankenScamp] #421342
08/06/09 11:50 PM
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Just got done for the night. Mainly doing lots of little unimpressive stuff right now. Grinding paint from around the excess holes in my engine bay where smog equipment and A/C stuff used to mount, cut out part of the A/C firewall and my patch panel from the spare firewall, ground all the green paint off of it, stuff like that in the engine bay.

Been degreasing and semi-glossing brackets.

Got the Magnum to LA bypass hose puzzle solved, figured out that an LA water neck is too big and I meed one from a SB Ford. Modified the 14 x 3 air cleaner to fit over my new Demon carb and make my old throttle/kickdown stuff work.

My poly front suspension arrived yesterday. On the workday eves I only get a couple hours in, Last week was vacation, remember. More updates this weekend.

Re: 360 swap day 3 today. update PICS! [Re: Just Cameron] #421343
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Looks great!!!!!

So if I read right you are going from a 318 to a 360? You bought a new torque converter for the trans right? Ah you probially did.

Looks great and great work


For the absolute best powder coating go to J.I.T powder coating, contact infomation is in my personal profile..
Re: 360 swap day 3 today. update PICS! [Re: TX9H6E4CUDA] #421344
08/07/09 12:18 AM
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The drivetrain was upgraded back when I swapped the 318 to a 4 bbl.

I have the MP 145K converter with a 1st of 2.74 and a 2nd of 1.54.

I am running a 3.21:1 rear

Tire diameter = 26"

Cam is a comp hyd. roller 264/270-480

I will have to find the part #'s of the pistons I ordered to remember the compression, I kept it pretty tame, either 9:1 or 9.5:1...I forget which.

Eventually I plan to not have a torque converter at all, via a 3rd pedal so I doubt I'll buy a higher-stall converter right now.

Re: 360 swap day 3 today. update PICS! [Re: Just Cameron] #421345
08/07/09 12:31 AM
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I believe Garret was refering too the fact 360's are externally balanced...

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