There was these valance pieces that were suspected as repo /or original .When they were on ebay
Re: Original Daytona parts on ebay
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2009, 11:54:53 AM » Quote Modify

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That was my original thought prototype or pre production pieces.I knew they were not superbird as they appeared .As to the contour and surface area

Quote from: nascarxx29 on December 29, 2008, 08:03:55 AM
JohnTPR forwarded this to me . I thought that they were salvaged from a damaged whole valance.Or maybe old templates used from past engineering vendor?? Parts are in MI


Quote from: nascarxx29 on December 29, 2008, 12:09:27 PM
Early prototypes? With no sidemarker cuts .The earliest daytona had stick on reflectors and taped headlight door openings.Wish the guy furnished more info in the description other than they sat on the shelves for years

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-dodg...1QQcmdZViewItem

Re: Original Daytona parts on ebay
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2009, 11:47:46 AM » Quote

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The guy that bought those valance halves called me about a week ago, and we had a long chat. He and I came to the conclusion that they MIGHT be race Daytona parts. More specifically, we thought that was the most likely of the possibilities due to the missing marker light recesses. There's a very slight possibility that it was a pre-production mockup piece, since I have pictures of a prototype/mockup car which has no marker lights on its valance. From what he was saying, this does not appear to be a reproduction part, due to how it was stamped/formed. The weird part is that the valance is in two pieces. He was going to look closer at the joint between the two pieces, and also take a closer look at the gauge and type of metal itself.

I was thinking that a guy like Greg Kwiatkowski, who is (re-)building the actual #88 Daytona, could make good use of these. Steve, the guy that bought the parts through eBay, was debating about adding the marker light recess and using them on a real Daytona. Either way, the valance was not made to go on a regular "street" Daytona - but that does not necessarily mean it's a reproduction.

Please note that the NOS grille frame sits in the NOS nose opening like it is supposed to.

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That's .......A matched set, should have no issuses there, just FYI, about 2 or more years ago when I discussed SB grille frames with Jack McGaughey, as he was contemplating making them, and I was already tooling for them, we discussed the problems with forming them, requirements, etc.....Jack wasn't surprised, just amazed at the variations in measurements from the more than several originals he had on hand, plus others he had measured when he had access to them,......he was curious on how I arrive at a "finished", or finialized deminsion to begin tooling for a part,.....and it's like I mentioned in an earlier post,.....you choose the median of all recorded deminsions you have access to, used or NOS



I remember a decade or more back when I tooled up for Daytona grille frames, I made the mistake of using an NOS grille frame, that I borrowed, the first half dozen grille frames went in the trash heap, along with the prints and tooling, because they didn't fit any nose,original or rebop, they were to short in coverage by 1/4" top to bottom, luckly I didn't release any out at the time!,.......I always made it a habit of test fitting parts, before produceing them, but I too fall victim of assumeing NOS parts fit, because their NOS,....Most of the time they do, but.....you never know until your assembling the entire assy, if it's going to have issuses?

This statement made by superbirdtom .I what I refered to early on .You had to remove a bracket .From old nose to N.O.S. one replacing it

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Re: N.O.S. Superbird Nose Cone Tech VS/ Repos
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just to add to all the previous well coverd posts. I believe the difference is that the replacement cones if you ordered one from the dealer back in the day they didn't come with the piece that mmounts the top side of the cone to the rad support. you had to take it off the damaged one ant reweld it onto the replacement one.

And I believe that the ones that came on the cars delivered some had wiring holders that are tacked to the interior of the cone to hold the hoses and h-light wires . I believe i have seen them with and without them as a difference between stock and repop. the steel repops look damn good in my opinion.

Re: N.O.S. Superbird Nose Cone Tech VS/ Repos
« Reply #5 on: Today at 07:48:46 AM » Quote Mopar John


[Here is a picture of my NOS Superbird nosecone. It is missing the closure panel. While I'm on this topic I would like to add my thoughts on the NOS vs REPRO debate. If you have a quality original car NOS is the way to go. If your building a clone thats where the repro parts belong. There are more clones going together than originals being restored and if they use up the rare parts on the clones it's sad. When you use NOS parts on your restoration be sure to include pictures of the parts with the box or label and as they are installed on the car. Also keep your receipts. Later if you decide to sell and you can prove you used NOS vs repro it will make a big differance even though it doesn't look much differant.

So if you have a beyond salvage nose cone and you dont have that piece to transfer over.That I refered to earlier .As in the picture .That might or might not be on your NOS nose.What do you do??

Guess thats all you can do .Unless the metal nosecone vendors being as nose is made up in sections .Sell you that individual piece you need.Or any other section you might need