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Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #336164
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Yes, do exactly that. We do it all the time.

If you've got the hang of butt welding with a mig, you can carefully grind down both sides of the weld for a perfect repair.

We always wipe a thin film of fiberglass over the weld after the grind, to be sanded back off. The one and only purpose is to fill and seal any tiny air pockets that you might not see. It will keep any bubbles from appearing in the future.


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Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #336165
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your doing the Cuda, use the AMD hardtop skins only,



Mike




No need for the full quarters then? Just cut and butt-weld at the top just below the edge of the quarters?




No...I think he meant full quarters instead of skins, even though he said skins Use the heavy contact paper to make a pattern of the shape of the opening around the conv top.

Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: cloneguy] #336166
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Perhaps these pictures will help?

`cuda 1

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1970 `cuda340 convertible 4-speed Rallye Red with Red interior
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Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: cudaized] #336167
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`cuda 2

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Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: cudaized] #336168
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`cuda 4 - hardtop

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Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: cudaized] #336170
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Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: cudaized] #336171
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Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: cudaized] #336174
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Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: cudaized] #336175
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Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: cudaized] #336176
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Musclecar Restoratins did a Cuda' convertible restoration and has a ton of good reference pics for doing what you're talking about.

Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: 68SportSatvert] #336177
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Musclecar Restoratins did a Cuda' convertible restoration and has a ton of good reference pics for doing what you're talking about.




Looks like they used skins, although could have been done before full quarters were out:



Hmmm...seems if I use the original tops of the quarters, and keep the flange for the well chrome, I still have some butt-welding to do w/full quarters.

Just seems like for 'verts, full quarters may not totally neccessary as I'm sure AMD skins can't be all that bad. Same gauge of metal and crisp body line down the middle as the full quarters???

Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #336178
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Cool that you picked up a cuda vert too.

I've been asking the same question about my 70 RR vert.

I'm looking for tips and tricks for when I do mine.

Finoke

Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: JDMopar] #336179
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your doing the Cuda, use the AMD hardtop skins only,



Mike




No need for the full quarters then? Just cut and butt-weld at the top just below the edge of the quarters?




No...I think he meant full quarters instead of skins, even though he said skins Use the heavy contact paper to make a pattern of the shape of the opening around the conv top.






...Sorry Rob, I meant full AMD qtrs, not skins, skins are for patch panels, which IMHO are obsolete; seeing full qtrs are avaliable,...when I mentioned earlier to use contact paper, that was to template from the exsisting convertibles upper sheetmetal from the cuda's hipline, basicaly the top "deck" section that defines the vert qtr from the hardtop, the contact paper template allows you to transfer the exact cut/shape required from the verts qtrs to the AMD hardtop qtrs without a lot of cut and error,....I'd leave a little extra where the belt trim goes, as you'll need to form that area, and it will "shrink" the deminson somewht because of the step required on the verts belt edge,....use a air powered flanging tool to create the step, there's many profiles avaliable for flanging panels, even if you need to modify/machine the dies, or you could really "backyard" it by making your own manual dies using a pair of HD vise grips and homemade offset dies from steelstock,....flanging hardtop qtrs is pretty much what I did on the 71 GTX vert project to accept custom made moulding/albeit it was fashioned after E bodie profile but altered for the 71 B Bodie

IMHO using the full qtr, and moding it, you'll have a factory fit/finish rather than a cut/splice mess of additional welding,....and the AMD skins are thicker .045 vs .030 (factory)...and the AMD body lines are very nice


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Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: DAYCLONA] #336180
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This was a 71 B Bodie hardtop qtr

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Re: ebody 'Cuda 'vert rear quarter change...skin? full Qs? [Re: DAYCLONA] #336181
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