No hook, any advice?
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05/31/09 08:49 PM
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On a good note took my junk to a mopar show at an 1/8 mile track. Got one good pass out of 8, that netted me a [Email]7.21@95.24[/Email] FWIW, that corrects to a [Email]11.34@118[/Email] which is only .01 slower than my best time last fall. The air yesterday was 2500 plus DA, my 11.33 passes were at 400 DA last November. So the E85 seems to have made a tick of improvement, about what I was hoping for. Maybe low-mid 20s in this fall? Now, for the bad part. I cant get a hook with this thing..period. Last fall I tried the cal trac bars in the lower hole with with 1/4 turn pre load on drivers side, 3/8 turn on passenger side, shocks (Rancho 9 ways) on 7-9. I had about 4.5 inches of travel last fall. Hook was very inconsistent with a best 60 of 1.60. Over the winter I swapped rear sections of the monoleaf springs to lower the rear to help with transfer. I now have 5.25 inches of front travel Yesterday I had the bars in the upper holes with .100 or so of air gap on the drivers side, passenger side just touching. Tried the shocks on 5, spun pretty bad. 60s were as slow as 1.90s, even one pass in the 2.00s. This was leaving off of idle. Leaving at 1500 or so, I did manage to get another 1.60 60 out of it. I dont have video, but the track photo shows a little bit of sunlight under the left front and good weight transfer. Overall if I leave at idle it spins, seems like it will transfer weight, but spins anyway. Leave a little higher and it will not spin as bad, but sometimes it transfers, sometimes not. Full rundown is a 72 RR, 5k flash converter, 4.30 gears, 275/60/15 ET street radials, calvert front shocks, SB torsion bars. In the driveway or on the street if I blip the throttle the front end comes up pretty quick, I dont think my problem is in the front,(but I honestly have no idea) all in the back. Any help would be appreciated
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72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: No hook, any advice?
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06/01/09 11:49 AM
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Here is a pic taken by the track photographer. Maybe it will help?? I have no idea which pass this was, but judging from the front end rise, most likely I left from idle and then it spun. http://www.cxpressphotography.com/asccus...avParent=126610
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: No hook, any advice?
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06/01/09 11:58 AM
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How much air pressure are you running? How is everyone else hooking at the track? What I am trying to say, your tires are not very wide, and combine that with a marginal track. You setup might be close to idea. I am just not familiar with those tries, whats the section width?
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Re: No hook, any advice?
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06/01/09 12:17 PM
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I have seen cars that leave from idle(on a narrow tire) would spin and yet if they up the rpm they would hook, I have the same issue on mine.... I call it slapping the converter and it up sets the tires... try even higher rpm. Its hard to say what your chassis needs without a video... you can learn tons from a video in slow-mo
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Re: No hook, any advice?
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06/01/09 12:38 PM
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How old are your tires? How much tread is left on them? What air pressure do you run?
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Re: No hook, any advice?
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06/01/09 02:43 PM
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How old are your tires? How much tread is left on them? What air pressure do you run?
The tires are at least 3 years old, but dont show any signs of dry rot.
Plenty of tread, not even down to the wear bars.
Ive tried pressures from 18 to 19.5, .5 increments.
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: No hook, any advice?
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06/01/09 02:47 PM
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How old are your tires? How much tread is left on them? What air pressure do you run?
The tires are at least 3 years old, but dont show any signs of dry rot.
Plenty of tread, not even down to the wear bars.
Ive tried pressures from 18 to 19.5, .5 increments.
3 years is a old tire (to me), its not that they rot... its the compound dries out
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