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Re: ON OFF Battery Switch.. How to kill alternator? [Re: dave571] #333518
06/01/09 12:50 AM
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It's how every factory car on the road is wired.

That said, how often is the cause of death in a wreck, a fire caused by a pinched electrical wire?

The point of the rule is to stop you electrical components from running.




It's obvious I can't convince you but consider this

We are not talking about factory road cars, generally. We're talking about some very fast and potentially dangerous cars You can justify it in your own mind. Next time you've made a wheels up landing, fuel is draining all over hell, just think about that hot wire from the battery to the alternator. Frankly if I currently was building a car, I'd consider some sort of disconnect redundant from the drivers seat

Re: ON OFF Battery Switch.. How to kill alternator? [Re: SRT8Challenger] #333519
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Wish they would allow it to be on the battery Neg side!
What is the problem with using the Neg. side anyway??
I'm in the middle of relocating mine to the trunk, just bought the HD solenoid for the start wire, it will only be hot during cranking and will have the Nuetral Safety Start wired to it.
Just tring to decide to put the shut off on the Neg. or Pos. wire from the battery.
Up front I had a quick disconnect on the Neg, side of the battery, it killed everything and worked fine for years.
Ed




I believe the rule book states that the cut off switch is suppose be wired through the positive wire to the battery.

But with the alternator:

Why can't you run a wire from the alternator to the negative side of the cut off switch? This way it is only HOT when the switch is ON.

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Re: ON OFF Battery Switch.. How to kill alternator? #333520
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It's how every factory car on the road is wired.

That said, how often is the cause of death in a wreck, a fire caused by a pinched electrical wire?

The point of the rule is to stop you electrical components from running.




It's obvious I can't convince you but consider this

We are not talking about factory road cars, generally. We're talking about some very fast and potentially dangerous cars You can justify it in your own mind. Next time you've made a wheels up landing, fuel is draining all over hell, just think about that hot wire from the battery to the alternator. Frankly if I currently was building a car, I'd consider some sort of disconnect redundant from the drivers seat




I tend to go the simplest route due to the more
stuff you have the more stuff can/will go wrong/break
and of course it NEVER breaks at a convenient time
thats why the have always used the KISS method ... JMO

Re: ON OFF Battery Switch.. How to kill alternator? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #333521
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Oh, I guess I could..
I was tring to only run one 6 gauge wire from the alt. to a junction on my under dash sub panel and then back to the trunk.
I did not want to run a 6 gauge wire back to the trunk, then run another 6 gauge wie back to the front of the car to power up all my relays for pum, fans, lights and so on. My starter wire will only be hot during cranking.
Seems wrong to run alt. to trunk, then bring power back up front. That is a long distance and a lot of added weight and resistance even with 6 gauge wire, I also like it to run off power from the alt. not all from the battery.
Lots of ways to do this, lots of good ideas here.
Just would be so simple if I used the neg. side of the battery to the cut out switch, less cables, less relays, less connectors and so on.
Anybody here using the Neg. side? That will admit it?? HA HA


Thanks,
Ed

Re: ON OFF Battery Switch.. How to kill alternator? [Re: moparniac] #333522
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all i did and works fine....







What if you ran the alternator output wire to the negative (OFF) side of the switch? This way it would not be live all the time. And live only when the switch is ON.

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Re: ON OFF Battery Switch.. How to kill alternator? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #333524
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or better yet, why not just use the factory + terminal off the alternator back and wire it to the OFF section of the switch.




If you get the 4 post kill switch it will kill the
alt lead when the master is off

Re: ON OFF Battery Switch.. How to kill alternator? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #333525
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all i did and works fine....







What if you ran the alternator output wire to the negative (OFF) side of the switch? This way it would not be live all the time. And live only when the switch is ON.



If you put it on the opposite side of the bat post of the switch the car will keep running off the alt. The 4 terminal master switch or the constant duty solenoid will do the job for you.

Re: ON OFF Battery Switch.. How to kill alternator? [Re: Gary67] #333526
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Watch out. Because some of the kill switches that have a secondary set of contacts that are for the "Magnito" will not work. The secondary contacts operate the opposite way of the primary contacts. So they close when you open the main disconnect.


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Re: ON OFF Battery Switch.. How to kill alternator? [Re: SRT8Challenger] #333527
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Just would be so simple if I used the neg. side of the battery to the cut out switch, less cables, less relays, less connectors and so on.
Anybody here using the Neg. side? That will admit it?? HA HA


Thanks,
Ed




I will admit to that. I run fuel injection and my switch also cuts the power to the relay's of my twin electric fuel pumps. No fuel, no power and everything is dead. It's not by the book, but works fine for me. After all, I'm the one thats in the cab.


Jerry Williams.
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