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Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: 360view] #333398
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the noisy resonance depends on the
temperature & pressure of the exhaust gas too
(for geeks: actually the speed of sound for that gas condition)




Good post.
My charger had it bad when it was running lean. Once I got the fuel mix to where the engine was most happy it was much quieter, but not completely gone. I figure the exhaust was cooler and more dense shifting the natural frequency of the pipes.

Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: @#$%&*!] #333399
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I just changed the exhaust on the Dart. Went from a 2 1/2 inch with an H pipe and Flowmasters to 3 inch with an X pipe and DynoMax Ultraflows. Both dumped in front of the axle.

Picked up 2 tenths and 2 mph but the exhaust note is somewhat quieter and the bass is gone. I miss the bass sound. I guess this is the drone being talked about.

But this is a bracket car. It would probably drive me deaf if it were a car I drove alot.


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Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: 6T6Cuda] #333400
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DynoMax Turbos on my configuration behind TTI's w/no drone. Perfect.

Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: Junky] #333401
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I had that somewhat even with an H-pipe. Switched to an X-pipe. That fixed it. I like the tone now, too. Can hardly hear the exhaust from within the car at cruise.




I have a Summit system on my Duster (Factory manifolds with 2.5" duals with Summit mufflers & talpipes) and since I changed the rear axle ratio (2.45 -> 3.55) 2 days ago the car drones so bad on the highway after a one hour drive I can't stand it.

Will try a H or X pipe first to see if that changes the frequency point.

One step forward with the gears, 3 back with new exhaust drone, new driveshaft vibration and new alternator howl at cruise rpm.

Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: Mike H] #333402
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I have the same problem with a 440-6 69 Roadrunner, factory cast iron manifolds, new TTI exhaust system for the rest. The system resonates inside the car so badly you almost cannot drive it. I was told to replace the mufflers with "hemi mufflers", whatever that means. When I restored my Challenger (383, stock), I promised myself to never do the TTI thing again. I used a stock system from Accurate Exhaust. Beautiful. Sounds like it did originally. When I get around to re-doing my Roadrunner, that TTI crap will go in the trash in favor of a stock muffler and resonator system.




A buddy of mine purchased the TTI kit also and it has horrible drone with full exhaust out the back.

Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: Blakcharger440] #333403
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And here I thought it was more common with flowmasters. I planned to add a muffler in the tailpipes if it was bad on my flowmaster system....which I'm off to install in 3, 2, 1..

Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: NV69B7RR] #333404
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I have a stock style 2 1/2 system with Hemi style mufflers. It was surprisingly loud and had a bad drone around 2000 rpm. Installed 4 inch magnaflow glass packs as resonators. Sound is fantastic now. Drone is gone. Nice muscle car thump at idle but not outrageous at WOT. Worked out great.

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Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: Dougsmopars] #333405
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I have a stock style 2 1/2 system with Hemi style mufflers. It was surprisingly loud and had a bad drone around 2000 rpm. Installed 4 inch magnaflow glass packs as resonators. Sound is fantastic now. Drone is gone. Nice muscle car thump at idle but not outrageous at WOT. Worked out great.




Wish that was an option for me, darn A-body.

Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: 360view] #333406
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Here is a technical post on a Mustang forum on using a cheap Helmholtz Resonator' technique that eliminates drone. The new Camaro uses this technique on their intake tube to eliminate intake noise.

It is a very interesting read
http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=496793

Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: rapom] #333407
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Just wanted to update that I did this technique and it works. Didn't want to take the chance with muffler type resonators and have it not work. Only cost me $12. No more drone. Drone was bad over a wide range because of the 2.94 gears. Still has nice deep idle and nice wide open sound. But drone is 95% gone. Exhaust is almost too quiet. But it's my wifes car and she wanted it quiet. I did this on a summit 2 1/2" dual exhaust system with manifolds.

Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: rapom] #333408
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any chance you can post a pix, I'm unable to get a pix from the link....thanks


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Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: hemibeep] #333409
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my tti has H pipe, and walker dynomax. sounds fine.



Same here. No drone.

Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: GOLDMYN] #333410
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Heres some pics. Here is where I drilled out a 2" hole with a holesaw and welded a nipple to attach the pipe. I used 2and 1/4" pipe for clearance.

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Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: rapom] #333411
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Here is a picture of the pipes I installed as resonators. When I first tried them out I duct taped the metal caps on in case I needed to adjust the lengths. Here they are after I welded them. They are 28" to 29" including the nipples. I had the exhaust shop cut me a 60" length and bell both ends.

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Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: rapom] #333412
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A properly located "H" pipe type crossover pipe will also eliminate the drone.

Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: rapom] #333413
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Here they are installed.

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Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: rapom] #333414
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Here is another picture.

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Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: Snoopy] #333415
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You can supposedly install these anywhere and they will work. Even in front of the mufflers like the truck guys. I have a crossover exhaust on my Trans Am and I had an H pipe on my truck and they still drone. Not sure sure if they are properly located but sometimes you don't have to many location choices.
As I said, the is my wife's car and she wanted in quiet and I wanted a cheap guarranted fix.

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Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: rapom] #333416
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Here another pic.

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Re: Getting rid or exhaust "drone" [Re: rapom] #333417
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I mentioned the crossover because I had a 93 5.0 Mustang that I installed Flowmasters on and the drone was so bad that you could not talk or listen to the radio. I contacted Flowmaster and they told me to install the crossover. I told them that I had the stock factory "H" pipe and they said that the crossover in the factory exhaust was not effective with the Flowmasters and I would have to install another crossover to eliminate the drone. I followed their instructions, which did not require the removal of the original crossover tube, and the drone was gone.

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