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5.7 hemi tooling being moved from Saltillo Mexico to Dundee MI and will restart production for 2026 model year Rams. Sources say it'll be available on lower trim levels as a base engine

Its already out of production in MX

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I just read this story: https://moparinsiders.com/report-5-7-liter-hemi-v8-production-to-move-to-the-u-s/

And look at the time & date of this post - it's still 2/7, & the time is 11:00 PM EST. What's up with this?

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Re: Hemi news [Re: Sunroofcuda] #3288064
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But I thought the Hurricane 6 cyl was the bestest evar -not because of the overuse of plastic and poor rushed design with zero QC and the fact NO ONE wants it- but because on paper it looks good.


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Originally Posted by 2boltmain
But I thought the Hurricane 6 cyl was the bestest ever FOR THE EURO AND WHO KNOWS WHERE MARKETS down -not because of the overuse of plastic and poor rushed design with zero QC and the fact NO ONE wants it- but because on paper it looks good.

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Originally Posted by 2boltmain
But I thought the Hurricane 6 cyl was the bestest evar -not because of the overuse of plastic and poor rushed design with zero QC and the fact NO ONE wants it- but because on paper it looks good.



I am reminded of a John Wayne quote here.

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The hurricane was in development for years, its not something that was rushed out the door. IIRC its just their 4cyl they've been using for decade+ with 2 cylinders added to it and so far they've been holding up fine. The hemi is only going to be available in lower trims, like work truck base models or I assume a value pack truck seeing as the classic is now gone which will rev up sales that they desperately need

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Regardless of the Hurricane Eng being an established engine- the fact remains it is junk. Maybe a good design with poor execution? Doesn't matter because hard working Americans are screwed when they buy this garbage engine that has no fix-from a company and dealer network who does not care. Even the highly ranked Toyota Company has a garbage 6 cyl in their Tundra. Difference is I see NOBODY- not even loyal Toyota fan boys bragging up how great the new Toyota turbo 6 cyl is. The big three need to make a Robust, well designed powerful NA V8s that will last with common sense Prev maint.


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So the guys that actually work their truck, the blue collar guy looking for a deal on a new work truck can get the hemi while the fanboys that never put anything but maybe a few bags of groceries in the bed of their "precious" truck that they can't scratch... Those guys get the 6? Sounds about right for once

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Originally Posted by 2boltmain
Regardless of the Hurricane Eng being an established engine- the fact remains it is junk. Maybe a good design with poor execution? Doesn't matter because hard working Americans are screwed when they buy this garbage engine that has no fix-from a company and dealer network who does not care. Even the highly ranked Toyota Company has a garbage 6 cyl in their Tundra. Difference is I see NOBODY- not even loyal Toyota fan boys bragging up how great the new Toyota turbo 6 cyl is. The big three need to make a Robust, well designed powerful NA V8s that will last with common sense Prev maint.


Fact. Toyota is going to regret dumping the old 5.7 V-8 in favor of the V-6. On the plus side, if you have one of the older Toyotas, their value just went up. My daughter has a 2017 with super low miles that she could still sell for more than she paid brand new (now). The old 4.6/5.7 was a bullet-proof engine, unlike current version. Ram cam out of the RHO which right now, some guys are actually dumb enough to be paying over sticker to get. I suspect the Hurricane trucks will end up being like the fiasco that Ford went through with their early trucks with the twin turbo V6. They bragged them up about how much they could tow and how much HP and torque they had...until guys actually started using them like trucks. All of the guys that I know that had them, did not keep them long. Have no idea what the current version is like, but then Ford rolled out the 7.3 gas, so maybe they learned?


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some of these new v-6's out there remind me of the old GMC[Gotta Mechanic Comin' ? laugh2] v-6 that was a 3/4 replica of the 348/409 engine.
maybe good on paper, but junk in real life.
i had a 4 year relationship with that engine, as it was what powered the 1 ton shop wrecker used at the body shop i worked at.
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Retool it so they don`t have the Hemi tick anymore.


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I'm very skeptical about anything I read with future engines. I also have to repeat that auto manufacturers were reacting to mandates and not choosing to drop V8 engines. The mandate has been lifted so I think they are possibly reconsidering the V8.

I find hard to believe they would start re-producing a antiquated engine (albeit a great engine). I can imagine a newly designed "hemi" that's lighter, more powerful and more fuel efficient. But again, taking everything with skepticism.


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Originally Posted by 2boltmain
Regardless of the Hurricane Eng being an established engine- the fact remains it is junk. Maybe a good design with poor execution? Doesn't matter because hard working Americans are screwed when they buy this garbage engine that has no fix-from a company and dealer network who does not care. Even the highly ranked Toyota Company has a garbage 6 cyl in their Tundra. Difference is I see NOBODY- not even loyal Toyota fan boys bragging up how great the new Toyota turbo 6 cyl is. The big three need to make a Robust, well designed powerful NA V8s that will last with common sense Prev maint.


Blah, blah blah

You got any facts are are you just running your piehole in OD?

I haven't heard anything factual about the Hurricane, good or bad, but frankly I am not in that market anyway.

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Originally Posted by 2boltmain
Regardless of the Hurricane Eng being an established engine- the fact remains it is junk. Maybe a good design with poor execution? Doesn't matter because hard working Americans are screwed when they buy this garbage engine that has no fix-from a company and dealer network who does not care. Even the highly ranked Toyota Company has a garbage 6 cyl in their Tundra. Difference is I see NOBODY- not even loyal Toyota fan boys bragging up how great the new Toyota turbo 6 cyl is. The big three need to make a Robust, well designed powerful NA V8s that will last with common sense Prev maint.


Who says its junk lol, you?

If they were blowing up and unreliable we'd be well aware of it by now. That engine has been in development and testing since at least 2016 from what I've been hearing about it

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Originally Posted by oldjonny
Originally Posted by 2boltmain
Regardless of the Hurricane Eng being an established engine- the fact remains it is junk. Maybe a good design with poor execution? Doesn't matter because hard working Americans are screwed when they buy this garbage engine that has no fix-from a company and dealer network who does not care. Even the highly ranked Toyota Company has a garbage 6 cyl in their Tundra. Difference is I see NOBODY- not even loyal Toyota fan boys bragging up how great the new Toyota turbo 6 cyl is. The big three need to make a Robust, well designed powerful NA V8s that will last with common sense Prev maint.


Fact. Toyota is going to regret dumping the old 5.7 V-8 in favor of the V-6. On the plus side, if you have one of the older Toyotas, their value just went up. My daughter has a 2017 with super low miles that she could still sell for more than she paid brand new (now). The old 4.6/5.7 was a bullet-proof engine, unlike current version. Ram cam out of the RHO which right now, some guys are actually dumb enough to be paying over sticker to get. I suspect the Hurricane trucks will end up being like the fiasco that Ford went through with their early trucks with the twin turbo V6. They bragged them up about how much they could tow and how much HP and torque they had...until guys actually started using them like trucks. All of the guys that I know that had them, did not keep them long. Have no idea what the current version is like, but then Ford rolled out the 7.3 gas, so maybe they learned?


I've worked for Toyota, their big secret for having good quality is just to keep re-using and refining parts for as long as possible - ancient engines included. I knew they'd have issues with the new turbo V6 purely because they haven't been using it for 20 years like their other old engines. They are probably having problems with all the new tech they have recently been forced to add to their vehicles, but they'll get it sorted out, I wouldn't buy a first year anything from Toyota right now.

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Originally Posted by Dart 500
Originally Posted by 2boltmain
Regardless of the Hurricane Eng being an established engine- the fact remains it is junk. Maybe a good design with poor execution? Doesn't matter because hard working Americans are screwed when they buy this garbage engine that has no fix-from a company and dealer network who does not care. Even the highly ranked Toyota Company has a garbage 6 cyl in their Tundra. Difference is I see NOBODY- not even loyal Toyota fan boys bragging up how great the new Toyota turbo 6 cyl is. The big three need to make a Robust, well designed powerful NA V8s that will last with common sense Prev maint.


Who says its junk lol, you?

If they were blowing up and unreliable we'd be well aware of it by now. That engine has been in development and testing since at least 2016 from what I've been hearing about it


Hurricane engines are great engines for what they are up to 650 horsepower which is respectable for a six cylinder. After that 650+ they start breaking rods. We built several with Carrillo rods over 750 horsepower with no issues. However, Americans will always want a V8.... Me included.


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This guy has inside sources, and he only reports actualities. What he discusses is not one-off incidents. Carlos Tavares went on a Rampage cutting quality and firing US engineers replacing them with lower paid overseas engineers. You must ask if the Hurricane 6 is a great engine- why is it not selling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QA6zanvUIk


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Originally Posted by 2boltmain
But I thought the Hurricane 6 cyl was the bestest evar -not because of the overuse of plastic and poor rushed design with zero QC and the fact NO ONE wants it- but because on paper it looks good.


The wife and I went to the Mopar Tech Center open house YEARS ago. 12+ years ago? We went on a "special" tour and I askled the guy, "whats that engine on the dyno stand". He said you arent SUPPOSED to see that but its the new Hurricane. I have no opinion good or bad BUT, DAMN, that thing had been around for a LONG time before being introduced/used. Is 10+ years typical. Seems extreme. I assumed after that much testing the thing would have been bullet proof like the old slant six.


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I'm not so sure that things are tested to be bulletproof any more, but more like what the minimum material or quality will get through the warranty period.

As for the Hemi, Chrysler spent a ton of money, time, and effort promoting it for a long time, and there's a level of affection, romance. and history there.
No 6-cylinder, no matter what, replaces that.
And for those of us who were around for the first 2 generations of Hemis, that affection goes even deeper.
Even the general public knows "Hemi" as an imposing and significant engine.

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