What's the market for old street/strip cars?
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Looking at a couple of different options for the future, one of which would require the '73 to be sold. Any sense for whether this would be reasonable to base decisions on, or if the market isn't there these days and I'd end up sitting on it instead of getting some $$$ back to offset other expenses.
This is NOT intended to be an end-around for advertising a car. I'm simply trying to get a sense for whether I should even consider this option in the future. Thx
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: What's the market for old street/strip cars?
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Brad...As you know,I sold my beloved 64 Dodge 330 a while back. Your Challenger would probably be an easier sale as it is streetable and an E-body. Mine was a full drag car and with a title. I think the drag car market is a bit soft. Good luck with what you decide. Mine was a difficult decision but with my health I couldn't drive my car anymore.
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The direction that would involve cutting loose the '73 would also involve getting rid of my 1320... with the goal of picking up something like a low-mileage SRT Super Stock to effectively replace both of 'em
Very much a long shot, but currently bouncing the idea around in my head, FWIW
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: What's the market for old street/strip cars?
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From personal experience, street/strip cars are easier to sell than race cars, as obviously they're more usable. The value equation of course depends: quality, performance, taste, sometimes adaptability to a class. And for a race car, provenance and original equipment and/or livery are factors, so there's not a blanket formula. An E-body is probably a bonus, but more so for '70-'71 than later cars, widely proven in the marketplace. Bottom line, you have to research similar cars, factor for the above plus timeframe (market up/down & economics), and decide what you need for it.
There's a butt for every saddle when it comes to nice cars, which IIRC yours is. Also, the wider audience you advertise to, the more likely the right person steps up.
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Always seems like people have money for stuff other than what I'm looking to sell My idea has too much of an "if... dog... rabbit..." dependency to likely play out anyway
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: What's the market for old street/strip cars?
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The more cut up it is, the harder to sell. Tubs and cage in a muscle era car will make it harder. Your average Joe muscle car buyer wants it more closer to stock. Anything that can be undone with a socket set affects the salability less. The pool of buyers for the faster, more race oriented street strip cars is smaller. A relatively small percentage have the dedication and dollars to actually race, and that club is shrinking.
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The people in my circle are spending money now because things continue rise. I spent a lot in Nov./Dec. Now time to idle for a bit.
As far as the op and his E body... the e body part is why it will do better then other equally built cars imo. I never looked how in depth it was modified though.
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That is why I built mine as a street car to race. If it ever comes down to having to sell it someday. I am sure it will sell easily. And, being an E Body also helps.
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Re: What's the market for old street/strip cars?
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Brad,
I agree with some of what Andy mentioned. You won't have any problem selling your Challenger. Stock hood would most likely be a problem for your current setup LOL. However, someone will only pay what they think it’s worth to them, so think hard about your asking price; give the car an honest description, make the price fair and don't budge. Quality always sells.
A few things that are important if you want to get your asking price:
1. Don't be lazy on writing a great add - it will pay off!
2. Break it down into categories detailing major parts components: ENGINE / TRANS / REAR END / FRONT-REAR SUSPENSION / ELECTRONICS / FUEL SYSTEM / SAFETY / PERF - add good photos of exterior, interior, engine bay, trunk, and under-chassis.
3. Do three 1-minute video's: -- (1st) silent walk-around video of just the exterior. -- (2nd) talking description video of the exterior, highlighting the engine bay with hood open or off, interior with doors open, trunk open area. -- (3rd) cold start video of the car running while doing a walk-around.
4. If you have a binder of maintenance logs, parts receipts, and time-slips at the track it'll all definitely help.
When you do all of the above, it works in your favor because the LESS questions someone has to ask you about the car, the more confidence it gives them in buying the car, etc.
Lastly, I know you mentioned a "SRT Super Stock" would be what you're aiming for if your two cars sell. Well, I can tell you, I've bought 3 new HellCat Challengers; '16, '18 Widebody, and '20 Widebody RedEye.........you WILL miss your E-Body. Unless you're strapped for room, or just over both your cars, I'd suggest you just keep them. You currently have the BEST of both worlds.
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I've been offered 50K for my 73 twice. It wasn't for sale. It's more street than strip. Though it'll run 12's on 87 swill. Doug
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Dragula...Is that '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage something that you're interested in getting rid of??? I'd be in the same boat as Brad having to get rid of something to do it but that thing is bada$$...
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picking up something like a low-mileage SRT Super Stock to effectively replace both of 'em
A friend of mine picked up used '23 early last year. Very apprehensive about driving it to the track (or in general) because how much he has in it. Prolly gunna buy an enclosed trailer. Lotta dumb deer and dumb drivers around here. I know I get nervous with my '15 HC especially at the track where anything can happen and none of it covered.
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Dragula...Is that '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage something that you're interested in getting rid of??? I'd be in the same boat as Brad having to get rid of something to do it but that thing is bada$$... Yes. PM me, and we can discuss.....if interested...I am open.
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Quality sells....Simple as that matters not if it's a racecar or street/strip car. I have never had an issue getting rid of any of my cars over the years. The hard part is getting people to look at them in person. I my case every time that someome lays eyes on the car IF I am in a selling mood they are gone. Every one. The market is there for quality nice stuff. I also believe if cars are priced realistically they also sell. So many folks out there are fishing for a buyer, rather than legitimately trying to sell a car. We all know I go through cars and just been my experience
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picking up something like a low-mileage SRT Super Stock to effectively replace both of 'em
A friend of mine picked up used '23 early last year. Very apprehensive about driving it to the track (or in general) because how much he has in it. Prolly gunna buy an enclosed trailer. Lotta dumb deer and dumb drivers around here. I know I get nervous with my '15 HC especially at the track where anything can happen and none of it covered. Its worse in the DMV area. I barely use my street cars for the same reasons. I get sacrificial cars for my daily drivers so I don't care what happens. If it was me, I get an older supercharged Drag Pak and cheap p/u.
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The more cut up it is, the harder to sell. Tubs and cage in a muscle era car will make it harder. Your average Joe muscle car buyer wants it more closer to stock. Anything that can be undone with a socket set affects the salability less. The pool of buyers for the faster, more race oriented street strip cars is smaller. A relatively small percentage have the dedication and dollars to actually race, and that club is shrinking. I believe this is a very accurate summary. I made a very dumb e body impulse purchase a few years ago...and have spent far too much making it more street friendly... if I could do it all over again I would willingly pay 50% more for an unmolested stock 318 barracuda than the piece of s@#t wannabe race car I purchased. Many 'race' cars have nice hidden features like this gem.
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Quality sells....Simple as that matters not if it's a racecar or street/strip car. I have never had an issue getting rid of any of my cars over the years. The hard part is getting people to look at them in person. I my case every time that someome lays eyes on the car IF I am in a selling mood they are gone. Every one. The market is there for quality nice stuff. I also believe if cars are priced realistically they also sell. So many folks out there are fishing for a buyer, rather than legitimately trying to sell a car. We all know I go through cars and just been my experience Well said. Nice stuff always sells if it’s priced right. 35 years in the car business has taught me that. My street strip Dart will be for sale at some point in the not distant future. It’s very nice. I have zero doubt it will sell quick, I have noticed the stuff that lingers or doesn’t sell either isn’t nice, is way overpriced, or both.
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Lastly, I know you mentioned a "SRT Super Stock" would be what you're aiming for if your two cars sell. Well, I can tell you, I've bought 3 new HellCat Challengers; '16, '18 Widebody, and '20 Widebody RedEye.........you WILL miss your E-Body. Unless you're strapped for room, or just over both your cars, I'd suggest you just keep them. You currently have the BEST of both worlds. I discussed the idea with my financial co-pilot (wife) and showed her the SRT SS with only 3500 miles on it that's about 20 minutes away. We'd be taking too much of a loss on the 1320 purchased 3 years ago, even though it only has 12K miles on it, among other concerns. Oh, FWIW, no way in He11 you could close a flat hood on the '73. Even changing to a lower intake manifold and shorter air cleaner combination would still require a standard T/A or Six Pack scoop cuz of the raised intake ports of the Victor heads on an RB block. I know this phrase is over used but... it is what it is.
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1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Quality sells....Simple as that matters not if it's a racecar or street/strip car. I have never had an issue getting rid of any of my cars over the years. The hard part is getting people to look at them in person. I my case every time that someome lays eyes on the car IF I am in a selling mood they are gone. Every one. The market is there for quality nice stuff. I also believe if cars are priced realistically they also sell. So many folks out there are fishing for a buyer, rather than legitimately trying to sell a car. We all know I go through cars and just been my experience Well said. Nice stuff always sells if it’s priced right. 35 years in the car business has taught me that. My street strip Dart will be for sale at some point in the not distant future. It’s very nice. I have zero doubt it will sell quick, I have noticed the stuff that lingers or doesn’t sell either isn’t nice, is way overpriced, or both. What he said. Generally if it isn't selling price comes in to play. I have seen some of the same cars for sale on eBay or racing junk for a decade. They are holding out for it! Good cars do sell, they just take time. You need to try and get a feel for the real world sale price of comparable cars, vs. the online asking prices.
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Don't tell those folks at the auction companies that modified cars sell for less than their restored counterparts, if you are bored just look at what well done modified muscle cars sell for. Especially over the not so rare restored counterparts.
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I just put my race car all over FB pages and have it up here as well. It is a really clean and well built car, tons of nice parts and sorted out. That said, I have not gotten a call on it yet. I have a friend that is selling his square body Chevy as a roller, also very nice piece, and he can't fill a waffle to raffle it off. I think that the market is def soft for anything older, especially race cars. I have considered registering it in CT and making it a little more streetable, but honestly that just costs more money. If it doesn't sell, I will hang out to it and get to track when I can. Or pull motor and trans and sell as a roller for a loss. Market is def tough and I don't have my hopes up too high on getting asking price.
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Speaking as a guy who is actively looking for a car or two. If the market is so soft I certainly don't see it reflected in asking prices. Most everything out there is overpriced, so being a guy who sells and buys alot of cars I see it as people fishing for a buyer or trying to get bailed out of a car they have to much in and think what you put into a car matter when it's time to sell. Again, quality sells, always has and always will. If you get no action on a car you are selling, one asking to much, two selling something with limited appeal, or three selling a car that is overpriced for the build level of the car.
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Its a replica drag car thats never been a drag a drag car. It is chock full of antiquated parts, far from a drag car. Somone's ideal of a reimagined old racecar. It is far from a racecar, and is also not a street car. What is the market for it. Old guys who cannot let go of the 's....BTW I have seen this car in person it is what it is. NOT a racecar or a streetcar. Ill stand by my previous statements.
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Its a replica drag car thats never been a drag a drag car. It is chock full of antiquated parts, far from a drag car. Somone's ideal of a reimagined old racecar. It is far from a racecar, and is also not a street car. What is the market for it. Old guys who cannot let go of the 's....BTW I have seen this car in person it is what it is. NOT a racecar or a streetcar. Ill stand by my previous statements. Yep and that’s why I’d use the parts any way I saw fit and not think a thing about it. You could certainly update some stuff and go racing if you wanted too. The hemi car appeared to be a real nice car and the better of the two deals I believe.
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Yep and that’s why I’d use the parts any way I saw fit and not think a thing about it. You could certainly update some stuff and go racing if you wanted too. The hemi car appeared to be a real nice car and the better of the two deals I believe.
And for another 10-20K you could have a racecar. IF it had a title be more suited to being a street car once you got that equipment working, Lites, exhaust etc. Be more suited to what it has done since it was built. To sit at a Mopar car show and opine about the good ole days.
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Just my lowly, wannabe opinion. The street/strip car is the best used performance car if it is mostly steel, no cut out front fender wells, mini-tub is acceptable, 8 - 10 pt cage okay,, fiberglass hood - ok, pump gas compression, full interior or in a race trim (aluminum panels). Something a guy can turn key drive to a local cruise or load on his trailer for the occasional track event. I'm totally bored with factory stock old cars & life is short. That's what I look for.
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