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Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: RokketRide] #328040
05/27/09 11:40 PM
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I bought the ebay ones... can't wait till they get here. just have to buy some wiring/fuses/relays now...

Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: Pool Fixer] #328041
07/03/09 12:48 PM
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Update.. I installed these and they really are a huge difference. I put in 5 relays, 1.high beams 2.low beams 3.electric fan 4.electric fan 5.fuelpump. I also used an auxilliary fuse box from west marine. it it really nice, and has a nice plastic cover to keep the water out since I mounted it on the inner fender.

I used gm delphi type weatherpack connectors whereever possible, plus noninsulated connectors with heatshrink (didn't solder..thought that was a bit overkill)

I used the original factory 16g wire and plugs from the rad support forward. I pulled the load side off the connector by the battery for the forward lamp harness.

combined with my denso 130 amp alternator, upgraded wiring, these lights are a huge improvement.

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Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: Pool Fixer] #328042
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Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: Pool Fixer] #328043
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bracket..just some aluminum I bent up in my vice, filed smooth and painted

Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: Pool Fixer] #328044
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getting there

Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: Pool Fixer] #328045
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Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: Pool Fixer] #328046
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lights!

Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: Pool Fixer] #328047
07/03/09 12:54 PM
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Looks like a nice clean job!


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: HealthServices] #328048
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very nice! glad you put in the relays - i just installed relays, keeping my halogens and it made a HUGE improvement, so i'm sure upgrading the lamps would be even better when i get the chance


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Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: Pool Fixer] #328049
07/03/09 06:39 PM
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Nice install. I'm going to do the same. The bulbs you received, were they an H1 and and H4 bulb?? What is the difference between H1 and H4? One more question, where did you get your relays from? Thanks

Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: frank] #328050
07/03/09 08:56 PM
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You really do not need the relays. Halogen lamps draw far less current than the old tungsten filament bulbs for the same amount of light. We used to use landing lights in the high beams on four light systems. They were 110 Watts at 12.6 Volts. A 55 Watt halogen draws half the current and puts out just as much light.
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Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: denfireguy] #328051
07/03/09 09:04 PM
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The problem is these old cars do not get full battery voltage at the headlights. That's why the relay upgrade works.


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: frank] #328052
07/04/09 12:30 PM
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Quote:

Nice install. I'm going to do the same. The bulbs you received, were they an H1 and and H4 bulb?? What is the difference between H1 and H4? One more question, where did you get your relays from? Thanks




I couldn't say what the actual difference is, except that the H4 is for the low beams and H1 is for the high. The lenses are different, the H1 is more clear than the H4. bulbs for the H4 also are dual filliment as they change when the high beams are activated.

I got my relays from
http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/products_id/504

seemed to have the best price. Got all wire from West Marine, got the noninsulated terminals from

http://www.wiringproducts.com/index1.html

Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: Pool Fixer] #328053
07/04/09 01:26 PM
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Thanks. Again nice install.

Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: HealthServices] #328054
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Quote:

The problem is these old cars do not get full battery voltage at the headlights. That's why the relay upgrade works.




They never did, when new. I put relays in my Roadrunner back in the '70's, and could see a difference with stock headlamps. This was before the sealed beam halogens came out. I never ran Lucas or Hellas's but I sure used the hell out of 4537's!!!!

Re: Headlight Upgrade #328055
07/04/09 10:27 PM
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I got mine from Pro Street Lighting. Plug and play. No wiring nessasary

Re: Headlight Upgrade [Re: Dougsmopars] #328056
07/04/09 11:17 PM
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Just checked out that conversion harness from painless.looks like an easy install and would extend the switch life. Also makes sence that the H4's would be brighter with direct 12 volt sorce rather then through the switch power loss. I just ordered the kit.

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