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70 Challenger RT/SE for me #3278400
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Thinking of going to look at this car. Need input on value as the talks have gone well enough that we are 5k apart. This is pretty close to a bucket list car for me. Would be breaking down the door if it had a few other things. As such, I don’t need to be dropping the extra money just to get into a car.

CA built and has N95 code on tag. Has tips now, which I prefer.
Supposed to be still all original body panels. Huge plus to me.
Factory red car.
Overhead console and headliner are nice.
Original trans
Drum brakes all around, not an issue for me other than value

Demerits include

NOM, claimed to be 70s steel crank motor is all info I have
black bottom,
exhaust is wonky setup I’d have to replace,
lacks blackout in a few places I see, and that driveshaft w t f
tires are ancient, probably 20 years old.

Story goes it was in a dealers collection and sat in a showroom for years. There are some pics to back that up. No other history.

Is that the correct steering wheel?

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Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3278402
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Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3278404
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This car is awesome. Really making me miss my 73....bad. Because I don't know, what is with all the thumbwheels on the radio? I have never seen that. Also, will be interested to know about the steering wheel.
Is this a restored car? Marking on rear end looks pretty fresh. If you decide not to purchase it, I bet there would be a lot of us who would get in line behind you. Best of luck!

Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: dssaa] #3278405
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Seller thinks it’s likely 15-20 years old old resto. Also unlikely it saw much action. Supposedly runs good, but I don’t know how much anybody could take it out and get fully warmed up with those old tires.

I thought that looks like a correct 70 thumb wheel, but I haven’t had an e body in close to 20 years so I’m a bit out of the game on those things.


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Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3278416
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That’s a rare am/fm thumbwheel radio and the horn ring was an option as well. Kinda rare. Now the very highly sought after option is the leftover paint red driveshaft! Lol. Go figure. Looks like a nice car. It’s hard to see but I think they painted the brake master firewall stiffening plate. It should be black if they even installed it.

Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: fastmark] #3278419
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Nice looking car. If done 20+ years ago, not all things would be expected to be 100% correct. Mopar crowd has gotten much, much pickier over the years. Me personally, I liked buying Mopars 40+ years ago when nobody cared a hoot about them and the picky guys were the Vette guys. Anything you point out could be easily dealt with if you need it to be that way.


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Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: fastmark] #3278420
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and the alignment cams look like they have been painted as well.
these are 2 huge red flags. inspect this car closely for other hack shortcuts. the 2 listed could be minor stuff or they could be the tip of the iceberg.


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Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: Mr T2U] #3278426
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All the items that need to be black are first thing I notice to see if a mopar guy built a car. That concerns me here, weird thing is the car looks ok in general, so why did they drop the ball in a few places? Seems it should have a pedal dress up kit too. Small things, but what big things are out of order?

It’s coded R11 so the radio was added.

Any ideas on value for a NOM U code?


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Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3278429
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I watched the video about a month ago and love the car overall but yes a bunch of corners cut underhood. Red brake backing plate and wire holder, alignment covers and cam bolts,radiator cap distributor cap battery holddown intake valley pan neg. battery cable mounting preheat hose electronic ignition etc... The shocks the driveshaft black underside and the center section all wrong. The exhaust is the least of the wrong items I see, trunk lock, hood latch grommet around dimmer switch possibly reproduction wheels due to backside being gray not black etc... I like the car overall as I said but DO NOT buy site unseen. Funny how in person a near perfect paint job looks way different.

Good luck with your quest because of all these things maybe 65Kish.
Ron

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Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: RJS] #3278440
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Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3278450
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U-code 440 4bbl in 1970 with N95 got chrome tips.


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Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: rickseeman] #3278452
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If the car spent it's early life in CA and was probably restored 20+ years ago it likely was clean enough that the person that sprayed the engine compartment just steam cleaned it then prepped and painted. For whatever reason they were not to concerned with the details under the hood it wasn't that important to most people back then. I've seen a lot of cars with engine compartments like this over the years. As with all cars these days I'd inspect before buying

Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: biggE] #3278468
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LA plant build the bottom of the car SHOULD BE black

Im surprised the wheel trim rings or dime store battery cable ends haven't been mentioned yet


I was interested in a VERY similar car maybe a year or so ago. that was in Florida . But it wasnt anywhere near $65k


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Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: autoxcuda] #3278486
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Originally Posted by autoxcuda
U-code 440 4bbl in 1970 with N95 got chrome tips.


I parsed the tag again today and noticed it was coded for the tips. I didn’t know that worked like that.


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Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3278489
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I do happen to know what they gave for this car. Kinda intriguing, but also doesn’t mean I can use it to any advantage. Looking to see what you guys think is range.

I remember the Florida car. 99.44% that’s not this one. The showroom pics really prove again it. Florida one had cowl rot.


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Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: SomeCarGuy] #3278504
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You need to go see the car in person to see it for yourself and drive it.

If the seller is willing to accommodate, they should be willing to put new or newer tires on it for the drive.

Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: moparmike1] #3278507
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Originally Posted by moparmike1
You need to go see the car in person to see it for yourself and drive it.



+1

Or have a person that you trust and really has knowledge to check it out.

Carsten

Re: 70 Challenger RT/SE for me [Re: fc7_plumcrazy] #3278528
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I’m capable of looking the car over. If they are above market on it then I don’t need to waste my time. Any other opinions on price? I was hoping to compare my number to what you guys think. I happened to hit it within a grand of what they gave. If they weren’t there bidding to flip it would’ve hit my number.


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