When RK first came out I dismissed them as a couple of hacks just doing nonsense and destroying old cars, but I finally watched a few and realized it was more than that. David and Steve's personalities remind me of friends in high school and seem to be real genuine car guys and I enjoyed their shows.
I admittedly still watch Fantomworks, Iron resurrection, and of course Graveyard Carz! There's some others. It's my go to channel when nothing good is on.
Facts are stubborn things.
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: larrymopar360]
#3271545 11/20/2407:35 PM11/20/2407:35 PM
A message/video popped up on Facebook from Joe Zolper and his thoughts about warner bros/discovery/motortrend very interesting to watch! :
OWNER OF EVERYTHING FROM 1956 300 B,IMPERIAL,NEW YORKER HEMIS,AND NEW HEMI TRUCKS.....5TH GENRAMS.COM... 1969/70 ROADRUNNERS ,DARTS/CORONETS, NORTHEAST HEMI OWNERS ASSOCIATION.....WWW.PHANTASMCUDAS.COM....MOPAR FAMILY FOR 50 YEARS AND STILL GOING!MOPAR OWNER COAST TO COAST!!!!
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: rdrnr6970]
#3271992 11/23/2401:15 PM11/23/2401:15 PM
As DF said "Motortrend is new cars" and that's exactly what i thought when the name changed. What a network full of new car tests? Why can't there be network channel with all kinds of shows automotive related shows on it? I like the Speed channel, When it ended some of the programming went to MavTV. Don't know what they have for programming now. It was interesting to see what Joe Zolper said about Discovery(the videos are on youtube" What’s happening to our TV content? Is Motortrend over?". And I agree! Seems the networks the own have tons of old reruns. How do they make money off of reruns. I understand the "automotive enthusiast" is a small niche and it's not going to attract a big network to spend money on it but look at the garbage that's on TV now? It simply blows my mind that Ru Paul's Drag Race is still on. Who in the "F" watches this garbage? And it really pisses me off looking at the cable bill and have to pay to see the few channels i do watch(and support the ones i don't). I really think TV is going the same way music did. Have a streaming network that put's on the programming you want to watch. Shame the big $ networks can't follow that concept. There is the "Food Network" where is "OUR" network?
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: RobG]
#3271993 11/23/2401:21 PM11/23/2401:21 PM
We will see what happens when all the people that subscribe to Discovery, just for the automotive content, cancel their subscriptions.They will learn how much value there is in the tired "home improvement" dramas (or not).
Now if we the automotive community can find a way to add shiplap to our interiors, I think we will have a show the entire Discovery or Magnolia channels will broadcast!
Lol, seriously! However, I have to say I like Chip and Joanna but overkill on all the others!
Facts are stubborn things.
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: Moparite]
#3271994 11/23/2401:25 PM11/23/2401:25 PM
As DF said "Motortrend is new cars" and that's exactly what i thought when the name changed. What a network full of new car tests? Why can't there be network channel with all kinds of shows automotive related shows on it? I like the Speed channel, When it ended some of the programming went to MavTV. Don't know what they have for programming now. It was interesting to see what Joe Zolper said about Discovery(the videos are on youtube" What’s happening to our TV content? Is Motortrend over?". And I agree! Seems the networks the own have tons of old reruns. How do they make money off of reruns. I understand the "automotive enthusiast" is a small niche and it's not going to attract a big network to spend money on it but look at the garbage that's on TV now? It simply blows my mind that Ru Paul's Drag Race is still on. Who in the "F" watches this garbage? And it really pisses me off looking at the cable bill and have to pay to see the few channels i do watch(and support the ones i don't). I really think TV is going the same way music did. Have a streaming network that put's on the programming you want to watch. Shame the big $ networks can't follow that concept. There is the "Food Network" where is "OUR" network?
It really is mindblowing the crap on tv that's successful as you mentioned; Rupaul, and too many other garbage shows to even remember. Housewives, jersey shore, fake drama cooking shows with blue and red dyed hair freaks. Empty headed garbage.
I'm still on cable/dvr and tbh it's because I don't want to take the time nor the energy to learn something new and jump through all the hoops with a new system and fees.
Facts are stubborn things.
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: topside]
#3272344 11/25/2403:18 PM11/25/2403:18 PM
yup, they gave one of my favorite shows the axe. No need to Support that Company anymore, so I deleted everything from Motortrends on all my devices, canceled, unfollowed and unsubbed everything from my media. I make it simple, you have nothing I like, I don't follow or support you for any reason.
I'm not surprised. It is super difficult and very expensive to do car builds for TV. Car builds take a long time, require a lot of expensive talent and a lot of expensive parts. It is almost impossible to build cars on a schedule these days since a lot of parts are not in stock. Roadkill was an attempt to do an end run around a lot of this stuff by hacking things together with zip ties and duct tape but still in the end, the cars needed to run for the show to work. So that means that someone somewhere had to be wrenching on the stuff and buying parts and all of that.
I'm not an insider anymore so I don't know what happened but my guess is that the money just ran out. That was what happened with the magazines a few years back. The money ran out and the gravy train slowed down and then ground to a halt. I spent about 10 years on the gravy train and it was great. I still miss it.
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: larrymopar360]
#3272408 11/25/2409:10 PM11/25/2409:10 PM
You can BET we will never get anything dedicated to us. I dont think the actual viewership numbers would be there. Too many love struck teens and confused young adults to milk the viewership money from.
Originally Posted by larrymopar360
Originally Posted by Moparite
As DF said "Motortrend is new cars" and that's exactly what i thought when the name changed. What a network full of new car tests? Why can't there be network channel with all kinds of shows automotive related shows on it? I like the Speed channel, When it ended some of the programming went to MavTV. Don't know what they have for programming now. It was interesting to see what Joe Zolper said about Discovery(the videos are on youtube" What’s happening to our TV content? Is Motortrend over?". And I agree! Seems the networks the own have tons of old reruns. How do they make money off of reruns. I understand the "automotive enthusiast" is a small niche and it's not going to attract a big network to spend money on it but look at the garbage that's on TV now? It simply blows my mind that Ru Paul's Drag Race is still on. Who in the "F" watches this garbage? And it really pisses me off looking at the cable bill and have to pay to see the few channels i do watch(and support the ones i don't). I really think TV is going the same way music did. Have a streaming network that put's on the programming you want to watch. Shame the big $ networks can't follow that concept. There is the "Food Network" where is "OUR" network?
It really is mindblowing the crap on tv that's successful as you mentioned; Rupaul, and too many other garbage shows to even remember. Housewives, jersey shore, fake drama cooking shows with blue and red dyed hair freaks. Empty headed garbage.
I'm still on cable/dvr and tbh it's because I don't want to take the time nor the energy to learn something new and jump through all the hoops with a new system and fees.
STOP POTATO HATE!
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: Mr PotatoHead]
#3272452 11/26/2408:48 AM11/26/2408:48 AM
that's not really true. it only takes between 1/2-3 hours [or so], tops !....................... .......... i need those kind of guys here to get my projects done ! [just kidding Andy ! you are correct in your statement.......]
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: AndyF]
#3272538 11/26/2403:10 PM11/26/2403:10 PM
I'm not surprised. It is super difficult and very expensive to do car builds for TV. Car builds take a long time, require a lot of expensive talent and a lot of expensive parts. It is almost impossible to build cars on a schedule these days since a lot of parts are not in stock. Roadkill was an attempt to do an end run around a lot of this stuff by hacking things together with zip ties and duct tape but still in the end, the cars needed to run for the show to work. So that means that someone somewhere had to be wrenching on the stuff and buying parts and all of that.
I'm not an insider anymore so I don't know what happened but my guess is that the money just ran out. That was what happened with the magazines a few years back. The money ran out and the gravy train slowed down and then ground to a halt. I spent about 10 years on the gravy train and it was great. I still miss it.
I will submit they likely kept GoPro in business with their plethora of car mounted cameras.
I'm with Helmuth Hübener, and no soup is being served today.
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: mopars4ever]
#3272621 11/26/2410:30 PM11/26/2410:30 PM
Shame they will be gone. I assume they will pop up again elsewhere in some fashion. One of the few shows I watched on a regular basis.
Some will be right back making videos on YouTube.. as Frieburger mentioned in his video. They will have the freedom to create content, as in the beginning, before the tv "shows" came out. AND it will be without all the BS from a pricy tv production standpoint. Cyclical is how I would describe it.
Plymouth Makes It!
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: Mr PotatoHead]
#3272664 11/27/2410:39 AM11/27/2410:39 AM
You can BET we will never get anything dedicated to us. I dont think the actual viewership numbers would be there. Too many love struck teens and confused young adults to milk the viewership money from.
The only car show that had mass appeal was Top Gear. RK was a low budget U.S. gearhead version in some ways. A good U.s. version of Top Gear could work if you get Jay Leno , Tim Allen and Jerry Seinfeld as hosts
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: RTSE4ME]
#3272667 11/27/2410:58 AM11/27/2410:58 AM
You can BET we will never get anything dedicated to us. I dont think the actual viewership numbers would be there. Too many love struck teens and confused young adults to milk the viewership money from.
The only car show that had mass appeal was Top Gear. RK was a low budget U.S. gearhead version in some ways.
The real Top Gear UK with Clarkson, Hammond and May was the best. All the others were just posers.
July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: John Brown]
#3272950 11/28/2412:21 PM11/28/2412:21 PM
I'm not surprised. It is super difficult and very expensive to do car builds for TV.
Guess is cost's more then grown men prancing around in drag. Not to mention all the other garbage that's on TV.
WATCH the clip from Joe Zolper (What’s happening to our TV content?)!!! It explains a lot. Motortrend will be just like the Science channel and a host of others that Discovery owns that don't put on new content just play crap from 10 years ago. Don't understand the concept of having a network that doesn't put on new content. It's out there but they don't want to pursue it. They could make show about people trying break the land speed records but all i have seen is one off shows about it. They could do a special about what happened to Jessi Combs. I didn't even know she died until a seen something come up at the end of a show i was watching. How about a show of "Motor News" that would cover stuff like this?! There is plenty of shows they could put on instead of nothing but reruns. And they don't take lots of time or $ to produce. I think they get the same return either showing new content or running reruns. That's why we can't see any decent content. This is the only thing i seen about Jessi Combs, And i had to search for it on youtube. You fail Discovery and Motortrend!
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: Moparite]
#3272990 11/28/2402:36 PM11/28/2402:36 PM
[quote]I'm not surprised. It is super difficult and very expensive to do car builds for TV.
One must remember, they are NOT doing car builds, they are making TV shows about car builds. There is a difference.
Most people, wouldn't watch a show on building a car, without the added drama from producers, directors to make it more interesting. Fake deadlines, motor not starting in time for the revel and on and on.
My Monster are real!
Living within your means makes life pretty easy.
Re: RIP Roadkill & Motor Trend production company
[Re: 67vertman]
#3272996 11/28/2403:04 PM11/28/2403:04 PM
Basic economics... Motor Trend channel didn't generate enough advertising $$.. Not enough supporting audience. Sorry to see MT to go but... Now they just becomes another channel broadcasting reruns and reruns.. Kinda like the Mopar magazine publishing biz.. We just lost another great magazine Hemmings Muscle Machines after 21 years...