Re: Best way to fix these holes
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Re: Best way to fix these holes
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Unless your great with a welder and minimizing warping and a darn good body man, you will always see the area. Probably cheaper and easier to replace the hood.
If I had to do it. Make sure your patch piece and the hood are the same gauge metal. Then I would cut a piece of the patch metal square, tack it to the original hood and cut the using a 1/8 inch or less cutoff wheel. Welding magnets to hold in place after cutting, and butt weld it in. Go slow, use cooling rags and compressed air to cool the area. I use a old saw blade to pull up on the panel if needed, and a body hammer to lower high areas while welding.
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Re: Best way to fix these holes
[Re: Neil]
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That is a terrible place to be welding. I consider myself a pretty good welder of body panels and would but try it at all.
Depending what you are trying to do, if not looking for originality, glue a plate in from below and then fiberglass over it. Might work. I think that would give you minimal waviness if done correctly. Would bevel the edges every so slightly first.
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Re: Best way to fix these holes
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I've tried that in the past once and it was a real PITA. The first problem you run into is trying to get the area of the hood you are welding to flat. This sounds stupid but if the hood isn't flat the patch panel will follow the waves and then you'll have a real problem trying to straighten it all out. Once you get the hood flat, then weld the patch in SLOWLY. I was welding GTS bulges into a flat '69 Dart hood with a MIG. I could only do tacks on about 6" spacing and then let the hood air cool to ambient. Otherwise you get a job that looks like the Pacific ocean in a good wind. Then I had a problem trying to work the imperfections out because the hood support structure was in the way. If I had to do it again I think I'd separate the hood skin from the reinforcement and then re-attach the two after I had the welding done.
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Re: Best way to fix these holes
[Re: Neil]
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All depends on the skill of the fabricator/repairer.
Decades ago, I was plagued by hood pins & their holes added to '68-'69 Road Runner hoods on cars I was restoring. Quite a PITA, especially since the repair had to be invisible from both sides, but I had a guy that could pull it off.
Later, my racecar-fabricator buddy made a couple of louvered panels for my Dually, did a cut-out & weld-in, and again, they look factory. Dude has mad welding skills, though, does Ferraris & such. But it took some time.
From what I'm understand from the OP, I'd be looking for a '67-'68 Valiant hood or doing a different scoop/lump/whatever. I think someone's making those hoods in fiberglass, too, though most 'glass hoods are wavy as a kiddie pool...
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Re: Best way to fix these holes
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I've tried that in the past once and it was a real PITA. The first problem you run into is trying to get the area of the hood you are welding to flat. This sounds stupid but if the hood isn't flat the patch panel will follow the waves and then you'll have a real problem trying to straighten it all out. Once you get the hood flat, then weld the patch in SLOWLY. I was welding GTS bulges into a flat '69 Dart hood with a MIG. I could only do tacks on about 6" spacing and then let the hood air cool to ambient. Otherwise you get a job that looks like the Pacific ocean in a good wind. Then I had a problem trying to work the imperfections out because the hood support structure was in the way. If I had to do it again I think I'd separate the hood skin from the reinforcement and then re-attach the two after I had the welding done. If you look closely the reinforcements have been cut when they did the original holes. So maybe taking them off and fixing them as well would be a little easier.
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Re: Best way to fix these holes
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Friend of mine recently bought a 1969 hemi GTX That someone added hood pins to it in its past.
He is replacing the hood. And, hood pins holes are much smaller that air-scoop holes.
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