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Re: Heat Pumps? [Re: hooziewhatsit] #3271200
11/19/24 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hooziewhatsit
Not all heat pumps are the same twocents

I just installed this one. Still has a COP over 2, down to -22F.

https://senville.com/28000-btu-tri-zone-mini-split-air-conditioner-sena-30hf-t/


That's a mini-split, intended for use in one room.

People use them in 3 season rooms to be able to use the room year round.


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Re: Heat Pumps? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3271275
11/19/24 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Where are those made and ship from?
I never heard of that brand confused


There's only a few major manufacturers of heat pumps.

https://mideaminisplit.com/

"GD Midea Air Conditioning is the leading manufacturer for all major brands like Toshiba, Carrier, Goodman, Friedrich, Samsung, Kenmore, Trane, Lennox, LG, and many more private labels like Senville, Klimaire, AirCon, Century, Pridiom, Thermocore and much more."


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Re: Heat Pumps? [Re: Faust] #3271305
11/19/24 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Faust
My house is heated with an oil fired boiler and baseboard radiation. My boiler is getting on there and people tell me to convert a heat pump. I can't see anything on the web which would seem to do the job. Are there any heat pumps that will basically replace the boiler and work with the existing baseboard radiation. I am concerned that the heat pumps can produce water at 120 degrees the current boiler heats the water to 180 degrees and radiation baseboard is sized accordingly.


Is a natural gas fired boiler not an option? I live in MN and with the temps we have, forget the heat pumps!

Re: Heat Pumps? [Re: Faust] #3271320
11/19/24 04:50 PM
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Interesting topic - heating is something I have paid attention to over the years, & for the past 3 years my wife & I have been wanting to move somewhere more rural in Michigan on at least 5 acres. 97% of the places we have been considering have propane forced air, we currently live about 35 miles NW of Detroit area & have always had forced air natural gas systems. Random comments & some opinions:

1. I prefer forced air systems because they exchange the air inside your house, & filter it. Base board heat or any kind of radiant heat does not do this. We have a make-up air system in our house, so when the furnace kicks, there is a feed of fresh outside air that draws into the cold air return duct, then is filtered & heated & distributed.
2. With a forced air system of either propane or natural gas, you can install a whole house humidifier.
3. My brother lives in Harrisburg, PA. & built his house in the early 90's - they are in a more mild climate than us, but they DO have winters! They have always had a heat pump, & whenever we visit there in cold weather, it just seems cool in their house - uncomfortably so. There is a heating "coil" that provides heat when it is required, so their electric bill goes up quite a bit when it gets cold.
4. One of my reps about 10 years ago who lived in the same area in PA. as my brother, always had trouble heating his house. He decided to have a geothermal system installed. It cost him over 30-grand, & he & his wife hated it - house was always cold in cold weather. The system utilizes 60-something air temps that are constant when you get to a certain depth below ground. The theory sounds really great, but when it's really cold outside, you want 70-72* heat inside your home! Obviously, everybody is a little different on what is comfortable to them. In the winter, my wife wants the thermostat set at 72.
5. We looked at a house about a month ago with our realtor - it was in a rural area & had propane heat. Propane has always scared me a bit because of cost. BUT, the homeowner was there during our tour & I got talking with him about propane. He told me propane has about twice the BTU's of natural gas, so half as much of it as natural gas is used. This house also had a whole house generator & he said when power goes out & it kicks on, it "sips" at the propane. He said he has his tank filled typically 2x a year.

Our electricity & natural gas costs have risen substantially over the past several years. "Necessarily" according to one former president.

My comments for what it's worth................I'm now leaning toward propane forced air as #1 preference.

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Re: Heat Pumps? [Re: Sunroofcuda] #3271340
11/19/24 07:34 PM
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Register air temps with heat pump; 80* +/-
Register air temps with propane; 120*+

Our register temps in winter with our geothermal are about 78*. That can actually feel cold if you come in and are damp. With propane, we would come in and stand over the registers to get warm. You could be soaking wet and with 120+* air, you get WARM and dry.

As I said before, if and when this current heat pump pukes, there will not be another one. There is simply not enough (if any) savings to put up with lukewarm air instead of HOT air coming out of the registers.


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Re: Heat Pumps? [Re: DaveRS23] #3271343
11/19/24 07:55 PM
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Nothing heats like a real flame. Same scenario in the kitchen. Hard to change from a gas range to an electric.


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Re: Heat Pumps? [Re: Faust] #3271389
11/20/24 04:37 AM
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Gas hot water cast iron radiator for me. That's real heat other than a good coal fire. up


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Re: Heat Pumps? [Re: moparx] #3271426
11/20/24 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by moparx
has anyone ever noticed heating systems seem to break down or have problems in the winter, while ac systems seem to do the same in summer ? whistling biggrin
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You mean like a light bulb only burns out when you first turn it on?
I solved that by not turning them on.


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