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Better headlights for 70 cars #3257115
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What is everyone using for better headlights for our cars. My 70 Charger still has the original bulbs from the 70’s and they lack by today’s standards. I don’t want them to draw any excess amps to strain my wires though.

Re: Better headlights for 70 cars [Re: fastmark] #3257120
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it depends on how original you want your car to look.
when i was daily driving my 72 road runner, early 2000, i upgraded the headlights to regular over the counter halogen old style bulbs and wired them via a relay to give the bulbs direct battery voltage instead of thru the headlight switch.
i didn't have any problems seeing when driving at night.

i THINK these days they sell kits to upgrade your old style bulbs to LED's now.
i would suggest googling this for the most accurate info.

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Re: Better headlights for 70 cars [Re: fastmark] #3257130
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Holley Retrobrights!

I had Silver Stars on relays in my 92 D250. They were still sketchy. I went with the 5700k Retrobrights and removed the relay setup. They are amazing! It's like having the heaadlights from my 2013 Marcedes CL65 Perfect cut-off line so they don't blind other drivers. Best part is they look 100% stock. Nobody knows they're LEDs. Bulbs are replaceable. They're DOT approved and impact resistant. 100% drop in. Impressive stuff.

The Imperial is getting a set, too.

Bad part is they're not cheap. In this case, buy once cry once.





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Re: Better headlights for 70 cars [Re: feets] #3257243
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The Holley's are still reflector based lights. Don't know how involved you want to get into headlights. A HID retro fit with a clear lens could be as good as any car on the road today.

Re: Better headlights for 70 cars [Re: feets] #3257246
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Originally Posted by feets
Holley Retrobrights!

I had Silver Stars on relays in my 92 D250. They were still sketchy. I went with the 5700k Retrobrights and removed the relay setup. They are amazing! It's like having the heaadlights from my 2013 Marcedes CL65 Perfect cut-off line so they don't blind other drivers. Best part is they look 100% stock. Nobody knows they're LEDs. Bulbs are replaceable. They're DOT approved and impact resistant. 100% drop in. Impressive stuff.

The Imperial is getting a set, too.

Bad part is they're not cheap. In this case, buy once cry once.





Same here, I bought the Holley Retrobrights and very happy with the look and performance on three cars. The bright white or classic white versions (little more original hue) are a significant improvement and still retain a relatively original look. I’ve recommended them To a few others and all are very happy with them. No mods required either, the adapter harness works perfect.

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Re: Better headlights for 70 cars [Re: 65pacecar] #3257251
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Yikes! A set of 4 is "on sale" for $700!
Holley is really proud of those.
Are they worth it?

I switched over to Halogens (w/relays), admittedly 10yrs ago, for about $75.

Plenty of options on eBay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4043352113...r=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3872100033...r=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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I did halogen bulbs and relays. Huge improvement for basically peanuts.

You can get housings with replaceable bulbs in higher wattage. These require relays but still budget friendly.


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Holley is too much $$$, these are on amazon..80 a pair for LEDs . Only one review so far though. LinkaMundo

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Re: Better headlights for 70 cars [Re: fastmark] #3257270
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https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hla-002850811

I have used these combined with a relay straight from the battery and was happy. Put a spade in the factory headlight connector for use as the relay signal.

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https://www.summitracing.com/parts/IPC-CWC-7003

Also have a set of these but have not used them yet

Re: Better headlights for 70 cars [Re: Moparite] #3257291
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Originally Posted by Moparite
The Holley's are still reflector based lights. Don't know how involved you want to get into headlights. A HID retro fit with a clear lens could be as good as any car on the road today.


Yes, clearly they are reflectors. Very good reflectors. Did you watch the video and see the beam pattern?

Forget all the cheap crap out there. They're garbage. Nowhere near the quality of light and beam pattern of properly designed lights.


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Re: Better headlights for 70 cars [Re: feets] #3257296
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I was a bit confused with the Holley guy saying that with this set up you have 4 low beams & 4 hi beams ?? Don't they work like the OEM ones, 2 outer low beams on, press the floor dimmer switch....... now you have the 2 outer sealed beams in (HI) beam mode plus the 2 inner sealed Hi beams on too?

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You can hook them up to operate like stock or the four at a time. It says the wiring comes with for both options.

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The housings I bought contain both high and low element bulbs. Mine are wired like factory but because the low element is in all 4 headlights they could be wired all on at once

Re: Better headlights for 70 cars [Re: MoonshineMattK] #3257322
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I took feet’s word for it. I ordered the Holleys. They looked simple to me. I’ve got the relay system in mine from the guy in CA. I could not get them to work for some reason. It was probably a ground or something but they would not turn off on high, if I remember correct. I did not mess with them after I got the car on the street. I just plugged in the original harness.

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I'd be a little worried about replacement 5 or 10yrs down the road with the Holley's.
It looks like $150 per bulb, if you trust they will even support them 10yrs from now.
But at that price, I guess you just replace the whole thing at that point.

https://www.holley.com/brands/holley_retrobright/products/exterior/lighting/headlight/

The Halogens can be picked up anywhere for $10

https://www.amazon.com/Halogen-Lights-Cars/s?k=Halogen+Lights+for+Cars

Re: Better headlights for 70 cars [Re: BDW] #3257337
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I've been interested in the Amazon setup, for my Barracuda, that's pictured BUT I just don't know if the opening and space behind the headlight bucket will accommodate that bulb. Those housings also come in a 5 3/4 size but a bit more expensive. Keep in mind my searches are on Amazon Canada and they're in Canadian dollars.

https://www.amazon.ca/IPCW-CWC-7003...9703893c&pd_rd_i=B000NZUQ56&th=1

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Here is another set of 4 on amazon.. $200 with a lot more reviews..... https://www.amazon.com/Octane-Light...91c2f19d&pd_rd_i=B09ZKC69L5&th=1

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i bought a set of octane lighting 6000k lights for my charger, but i haven't installed them yet.
when i do, i will try them without a relay system first, using the factory harness, then i may rig up a relay system to see if there is any difference.
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When I was building my 49 Dodge truck almost 4 years ago now, I wanted to upgrade the headlights. One of the guys at my local Advanced auto parts store was telling me about the Halogen headlights he had put in his 68 Mustang. They were glass housings with the rear inserted Halogen lights and were the same size as "normal" headlights, clearance in the headlight buckets I bought would have been no problem. They came as a kit with the relay & wiring, the glass lenses, and the halogen bulb inserts, from a Mustang specialty company on line (unfortunately I have no idea which one that was). I believe the two large round light kit was $75- $100 then. Other then the glass lenses being flat on the front rather then being curved, they look pretty normal, and they work great. The truck is driven year around and has 24,000 mils on it now.

If you buy the brighter, more powerful lights, be sure they have glass lenses. The plastic lenses run into the same issues that the modern vehicle plastic lenses have,

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