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If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new.. #3245423
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What one old car do you think would sell the best today if it was reissued as new with a warranty and everything?

I think the 68-69 Chargers available brand new again as a reissue would sell in very good numbers, but being a Mopar I think other cars that were more popular back then would outsell them even today. Ie most people out there would take a new Mustang over a Charger same as before

Have opinions on what is cool changed and is it possible people would buy something else with hindsight being 20/20? Would red 65 Mustangs or orange 69 Camaros still be what the majority of the public would run down and buy, or do you think some of the more rare cars would outsell their original numbers? 71 Cuda was a poor selling car, but today they are super desirable and many people who didn't buy one back then would totally love to be able to buy a new one if they could.

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They would weigh 5000lbs by the time they were done.

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Originally Posted by usp4u
They would weigh 5000lbs by the time they were done.




and probably cost 150k plus.
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The biggest problem with a re-issue, as far as appearing the same as original, would be bumpers.
Impact standards would pretty much preclude E-bodies, '68-'69 Chargers, and most anything with the smaller bumpers.
While it's an appealing idea to re-issue an icon or two of the past, the big automakers will never do it.
The engineering & manufacturing costs far outweigh the market they see for them.

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The question would be more based on desirability, and what the majority of people would run out and buy again if they could. They would be brand new older cars that would not have to adhere to all the current rules the new ones do so it would be like being able to go back in time basically. Same engines, Same colors, Same everything as before.

Back then they sold a lot of Mustangs for example and many of those people who had one were not necessarily hardcore car people. I've met numerous people over the years who tell me they or their parents bought one new and that was the one and only collectable type car they ever owned. They just bought one because they were hip, sporty, ect.at the time I wonder if people today would still do that all over again for the same cars and the sales numbers would play out similiar all over again, or if other cars that sold poorly, like E -body stuff, would be what people would get excited about now. At car shows today it's the rare stuff (ie. poor sellers back then) that now get all the attention.

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There actually is a federal setup to allow this.

However, being the feds, it's a lot of hoops to ump thru and them hoops aren't very large.
https://www.sema.org/news-media/magazine/2021/04/golden-age-replica-cars-upon-us

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Originally Posted by topside
The biggest problem with a re-issue, as far as appearing the same as original, would be bumpers.
Impact standards would pretty much preclude E-bodies, '68-'69 Chargers, and most anything with the smaller bumpers.
While it's an appealing idea to re-issue an icon or two of the past, the big automakers will never do it.
The engineering & manufacturing costs far outweigh the market they see for them.



Don't forget emissions, side impact, rollover, EVAP, permeation, fuel economy, A-pillar vision, crumple zones, air bags, no button door handles, auto lock doors, right side outside mirror standard, rear and front defogger standard, on and on.............

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The only "legal" way to sell them is as rolling chassis' They've been doing this in the Cobra world for decades. I worked for a Cobra shop years ago, they were fully built in south Africa, sent to the shop, then for the engine you talked to the guy with the business next door that just so happened to sell Roush 427 SBF's and arrange installation.

You would have to find a shop in China that would fully build your 68/69 chargers, ship them over, then have engine options for the buyer after it left your hands for legal reasons. This entire thing must cost less than a real 68/69 charger

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Originally Posted by A12
Originally Posted by topside
The biggest problem with a re-issue, as far as appearing the same as original, would be bumpers.
Impact standards would pretty much preclude E-bodies, '68-'69 Chargers, and most anything with the smaller bumpers.
While it's an appealing idea to re-issue an icon or two of the past, the big automakers will never do it.
The engineering & manufacturing costs far outweigh the market they see for them.



Don't forget emissions, side impact, rollover, EVAP, permeation, fuel economy, A-pillar vision, crumple zones, air bags, no button door handles, auto lock doors, right side outside mirror standard, rear and front defogger standard, on and on.............


Didn't read the link I posted

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Originally Posted by Dart 500
The only "legal" way to sell them is as rolling chassis' They've been doing this in the Cobra world for decades. I worked for a Cobra shop years ago, they were fully built in south Africa, sent to the shop, then for the engine you talked to the guy with the business next door that just so happened to sell Roush 427 SBF's and arrange installation.

You would have to find a shop in China that would fully build your 68/69 chargers, ship them over, then have engine options for the buyer after it left your hands for legal reasons. This entire thing must cost less than a real 68/69 charger


Didn't read the link I posted

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Nothing to do with cost, or Cafe rules, ect. Just the fact that you could go be able to buy an authentic re-issue of whatever would sell good all over again right now today. Would the masses all want a new red GTO or 289 Mustang once again same as before, or has time changed people's opinions on those super popular cars and they would now want a 71 Challenger or something else that is more unique or desirable? An example would be someone who bought a new 69 Camaro instead of a 69 Charger back then and now realizes that was a huge mistake so today they would run, not walk, to be able to own a new 69 Charger if it was possible to do so.

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I would want to get a 1958 Chevy Impala hardtop with the tri power solid lifter 348 with s stick tranny.
I'm not sure if they offered the 4 speeds in those cars back then, the only one I rode in was a 348 C.I. 4 barrel three on the tree car up boogie
I was able to ride in a 1960 El Camino with the 350 HP 348 with a 4 speed, it was impressive to my 15 year old body and mind in 1960boogie bow grin


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Forgetting all the regulation issues,
69 Camaro, it's a no brainer, you can still go to any track and see them still racing.
Beautiful car, there's a reason they sold so many, why would that change now?

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Originally Posted by BDW
Forgetting all the regulation issues,
69 Camaro, it's a no brainer, you can still go to any track and see them still racing.
Beautiful car, there's a reason they sold so many, why would that change now?


Because everybody that wants one already has two.

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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by Dart 500
The only "legal" way to sell them is as rolling chassis' They've been doing this in the Cobra world for decades. I worked for a Cobra shop years ago, they were fully built in south Africa, sent to the shop, then for the engine you talked to the guy with the business next door that just so happened to sell Roush 427 SBF's and arrange installation.

You would have to find a shop in China that would fully build your 68/69 chargers, ship them over, then have engine options for the buyer after it left your hands for legal reasons. This entire thing must cost less than a real 68/69 charger


Didn't read the link I posted


I dont read anything you post

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Ask Roxor how things are going.

Basically a reissue of a CJ5.


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Originally Posted by ruderunner
Ask Roxor how things are going.

Basically a reissue of a CJ5.


Or Randy Bollinger. They gotta be done as rollers

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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I would want to get a 1958 Chevy Impala hardtop with the tri power solid lifter 348 with s stick tranny.
I'm not sure if they offered the 4 speeds in those cars back then, the only one I rode in was a 348 C.I. 4 barrel three on the tree car up boogie
I was able to ride in a 1960 El Camino with the 350 HP 348 with a 4 speed, it was impressive to my 15 year old body and mind in 1960boogie bow grin


Dig up the old Hot Rod magazines where Roger Huntington did articles on two different 1959 SHP tri power 348 El Caminos. Both of them ran in the 12's. His comments were that they were running faster than gas class cars with legal stock class vehicles.


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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by A12
Originally Posted by topside
The biggest problem with a re-issue, as far as appearing the same as original, would be bumpers.
Impact standards would pretty much preclude E-bodies, '68-'69 Chargers, and most anything with the smaller bumpers.
While it's an appealing idea to re-issue an icon or two of the past, the big automakers will never do it.
The engineering & manufacturing costs far outweigh the market they see for them.



Don't forget emissions, side impact, rollover, EVAP, permeation, fuel economy, A-pillar vision, crumple zones, air bags, no button door handles, auto lock doors, right side outside mirror standard, rear and front defogger standard, on and on.............


Didn't read the link I posted


Nope just the thread subject/question shruggy wink

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Not one I would like to see come back....but does show it can happen.

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I would like to see wing cars come back. The issue would be license.
Super Performance makes a really nice replica of Cobra and GT40. On their GT40 replica you can swap many parts from original GT40.
They were expensive but a reachable price when 1st offered but then got licensed by Shelby and price went nuts.

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Originally Posted by Dart 500
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by Dart 500
The only "legal" way to sell them is as rolling chassis' They've been doing this in the Cobra world for decades. I worked for a Cobra shop years ago, they were fully built in south Africa, sent to the shop, then for the engine you talked to the guy with the business next door that just so happened to sell Roush 427 SBF's and arrange installation.

You would have to find a shop in China that would fully build your 68/69 chargers, ship them over, then have engine options for the buyer after it left your hands for legal reasons. This entire thing must cost less than a real 68/69 charger


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The new ones don't look like the old ones so my money says the originals have better styling and proportions. This goes for all 3 contemporary pony cars as well as the Charger that doesn't look a thing like the old ones did.

This question was about if the same best selling cars back then would still hold true today, or if the consumers today are on a different wave length and would seek out a different type of vehicle instead. Do we see nothing but hugger orange Camaros repeat itself, or has the world seen enough of those cars? I go to car shows and now see people admiring first Gen Broncos and Nash Rambler wagons and other oddball stuff instead of everyone flocking to look at a Mustang coupe, which was once the car everyone had or knew someone who had one.

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Reissued. As in BUILT AS THEY WERE IN THE DAY
Other than maybe a more modern engine
Among the Mopar choices I have 2
One has to be a 2 door a body
The other would be the b van

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Originally Posted by Neil
The new ones don't look like the old ones so my money says the originals have better styling and proportions. This goes for all 3 contemporary pony cars as well as the Charger that doesn't look a thing like the old ones did.

This question was about if the same best selling cars back then would still hold true today, or if the consumers today are on a different wave length and would seek out a different type of vehicle instead. Do we see nothing but hugger orange Camaros repeat itself, or has the world seen enough of those cars? I go to car shows and now see people admiring first Gen Broncos and Nash Rambler wagons and other oddball stuff instead of everyone flocking to look at a Mustang coupe, which was once the car everyone had or knew someone who had one.


It is most diffidently a different world now. Back then you had less manufactures and models to chose from. I think in today's world most go towards comfort and size. Most manufactures today's cars look a like, you cannot tell a Hyundai from a Toyota or a Lexus.


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In today's world? Given that everybody and his dog have flocked to SUVs, probably a square body Blazer or Suburban, original Bronco, or 1970s or 80s Wagoneer or Cherokee. Or a Scout?

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"Or a Scout?"


i hung around with the guys that ran the "cornbinder" dealership back in the day. [1972ish until ??? when the dealership closed]
one of the funniest scout stories involved beer [of course ! biggrin] the dealership "commander", and a new scout.
one "night" at the local watering hole, the "commander", my used car dealership buddy's and myself and my junkyard crew spent a "little" time there.
this "time" started around 5 o'clock [it's "always 5 o'clock somewhere....... up]. however, i had to leave around 7 or so because i had to go to work at my machinist/shop supervisor job.
well, the rest of the "tribe" stayed until closing time, when they were finally kicked out of this fine establishment.
as the "commander" figured he was the "best qualified" to drive, [eek] everyone piled into the new scout the "commander" had as a perk of the job, so he could drive them home "safely"....... [whistling confused]
as they were motoring along, someone in the back seat says : "where's [the "commander's name is redacted to protect the guilty] ?"
seems the scout was driving along without having the "commander" behind the wheel, and the driver's door was open ! panic
fortunately, the front seat passenger remembered to grab the wheel, and insert his foot on the brake pedal...........
the scout got stopped safely, and since they couldn't drive safely, considering their "condition", they all piled out of the scout, left it running in the middle of the street, and went looking for the "commander".
a short distance back from whence they came, he was found, wobbling around, trying to brush himself off.
seems that when they went around a short right turn in the street, the "commander" needed something to "steady" himself, so he leaned on the driver's door.
unfortunately, he "leaned" on the door handle, the door opened, and out he went !
luckily, he had enough "elixir" in him he didn't get hurt ! [punkrocka]
so all walked him back to the still running scout, they piled in, and strangely enough, the "commander" delivered them home safely and made it home himself without further incident..........
the next day when the story got out and spread through the "city", "Chief Earl" [the police chief at the time, who was widely respected by all that knew him, whatever "side of the law" they were on] wasn't very happy when he heard it !
"Chief Earl" had a "talk" with all involved, and everyone "behaved much better" from then forward.
this story was told many times in the years after by all involved, including the chief [R.I.P. my friend ! angel] and anyone who heard about it, and is still brought up occasionally today, close to 50 years later.
those times were SO different than today, and NO WAY could anyone get away with something like that now !
just a funny story that happened a long time ago when i was a "young punk", and the mention of a "Scout" cleared away some cobwebs in my old noggin, giving me a chuckle from my past.
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Thanks for that story! Definitely from another time, a better time when society wasn’t so uptight. Not that drinking and driving was ever a good idea… work

Appreciate your sharing that! smile

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Agreed, good story - mainly because they survived.
And yeah - there's several things I - and I bet I could say "we", right ? - did in the '60s through maybe the '80s that I'd never try now !

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Yup, around here just smoking your tires could get you a “stunting” charge, resulting in your car being taken from you for a week, a $2500ish fine, and several points off your license. Then once your insurance company gets wind of it, they get their way with you…

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We've seen the Challengers, the Mustangs, and the Camaros. It's time to bring back the 55 Belair in both sedan and wagon

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Originally Posted by Leadfoot
We've seen the Challengers, the Mustangs, and the Camaros. It's time to bring back the 55 Belair in both sedan and wagon


Not a big fan of the 55, but I'd like to see both 1957 Chevy and 1957 Ford cheapie two door sedans reproduced. I would take either. Oh, and why not throw in a 1957 Belvedere two door hardtop at the same time. thumbs


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Originally Posted by John Brown
Originally Posted by Leadfoot
We've seen the Challengers, the Mustangs, and the Camaros. It's time to bring back the 55 Belair in both sedan and wagon


Not a big fan of the 55, but I'd like to see both 1957 Chevy and 1957 Ford cheapie two door sedans reproduced. I would take either. Oh, and why not throw in a 1957 Belvedere two door hardtop at the same time. thumbs




i would like to see a 55 belvedere post sedan myself. [gasser hot rod, here we come ! boogie]
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The only "legal" way to sell them is as rolling chassis' They've been doing this in the Cobra world for decades. I worked for a Cobra shop years ago, they were fully built in south Africa, sent to the shop, then for the engine you talked to the guy with the business next door that just so happened to sell Roush 427 SBF's and arrange installation.

You would have to find a shop in China that would fully build your 68/69 chargers, ship them over, then have engine options for the buyer after it left your hands for legal reasons. This entire thing must cost less than a real 68/69 charger


Didn't read the link I posted


I dont read anything you post


Your response proves you lie, lol

Wallow in ignorance my friend.

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Not a car - but the Phymouth Trail Duster - with an optional soft top.


I am not rich...but I get off my ass everyday to make sure I am not broke!

Can we get the Mexican cartels to help us with our supply chain issues? They don't seem to have any trouble getting stuff from one place to another.
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Originally Posted by John Brown
Not a big fan of the 55, but I'd like to see both 1957 Chevy and 1957 Ford cheapie two door sedans reproduced. I would take either. Oh, and why not throw in a 1957 Belvedere two door hardtop at the same time. thumbs


Yes, a 57 Chevy would be my choice. My older brother had several of them back in the 60's and 70's including a convertible and a wagon. I always liked that body style best of the Tri-5's.

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