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If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new.. #3245423
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What one old car do you think would sell the best today if it was reissued as new with a warranty and everything?

I think the 68-69 Chargers available brand new again as a reissue would sell in very good numbers, but being a Mopar I think other cars that were more popular back then would outsell them even today. Ie most people out there would take a new Mustang over a Charger same as before

Have opinions on what is cool changed and is it possible people would buy something else with hindsight being 20/20? Would red 65 Mustangs or orange 69 Camaros still be what the majority of the public would run down and buy, or do you think some of the more rare cars would outsell their original numbers? 71 Cuda was a poor selling car, but today they are super desirable and many people who didn't buy one back then would totally love to be able to buy a new one if they could.

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They would weigh 5000lbs by the time they were done.

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Originally Posted by usp4u
They would weigh 5000lbs by the time they were done.




and probably cost 150k plus.
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The biggest problem with a re-issue, as far as appearing the same as original, would be bumpers.
Impact standards would pretty much preclude E-bodies, '68-'69 Chargers, and most anything with the smaller bumpers.
While it's an appealing idea to re-issue an icon or two of the past, the big automakers will never do it.
The engineering & manufacturing costs far outweigh the market they see for them.

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The question would be more based on desirability, and what the majority of people would run out and buy again if they could. They would be brand new older cars that would not have to adhere to all the current rules the new ones do so it would be like being able to go back in time basically. Same engines, Same colors, Same everything as before.

Back then they sold a lot of Mustangs for example and many of those people who had one were not necessarily hardcore car people. I've met numerous people over the years who tell me they or their parents bought one new and that was the one and only collectable type car they ever owned. They just bought one because they were hip, sporty, ect.at the time I wonder if people today would still do that all over again for the same cars and the sales numbers would play out similiar all over again, or if other cars that sold poorly, like E -body stuff, would be what people would get excited about now. At car shows today it's the rare stuff (ie. poor sellers back then) that now get all the attention.

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If I were younger it would be an In-Violet/white interior '70 Hemicuda 4-speed.
My current age, it would be an Alpine White/black interior '70 Challenger, 383, maybe 440, auto, cruise and a/c.
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There actually is a federal setup to allow this.

However, being the feds, it's a lot of hoops to ump thru and them hoops aren't very large.
https://www.sema.org/news-media/magazine/2021/04/golden-age-replica-cars-upon-us

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Originally Posted by topside
The biggest problem with a re-issue, as far as appearing the same as original, would be bumpers.
Impact standards would pretty much preclude E-bodies, '68-'69 Chargers, and most anything with the smaller bumpers.
While it's an appealing idea to re-issue an icon or two of the past, the big automakers will never do it.
The engineering & manufacturing costs far outweigh the market they see for them.



Don't forget emissions, side impact, rollover, EVAP, permeation, fuel economy, A-pillar vision, crumple zones, air bags, no button door handles, auto lock doors, right side outside mirror standard, rear and front defogger standard, on and on.............

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The only "legal" way to sell them is as rolling chassis' They've been doing this in the Cobra world for decades. I worked for a Cobra shop years ago, they were fully built in south Africa, sent to the shop, then for the engine you talked to the guy with the business next door that just so happened to sell Roush 427 SBF's and arrange installation.

You would have to find a shop in China that would fully build your 68/69 chargers, ship them over, then have engine options for the buyer after it left your hands for legal reasons. This entire thing must cost less than a real 68/69 charger

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Originally Posted by A12
Originally Posted by topside
The biggest problem with a re-issue, as far as appearing the same as original, would be bumpers.
Impact standards would pretty much preclude E-bodies, '68-'69 Chargers, and most anything with the smaller bumpers.
While it's an appealing idea to re-issue an icon or two of the past, the big automakers will never do it.
The engineering & manufacturing costs far outweigh the market they see for them.



Don't forget emissions, side impact, rollover, EVAP, permeation, fuel economy, A-pillar vision, crumple zones, air bags, no button door handles, auto lock doors, right side outside mirror standard, rear and front defogger standard, on and on.............


Didn't read the link I posted

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Originally Posted by Dart 500
The only "legal" way to sell them is as rolling chassis' They've been doing this in the Cobra world for decades. I worked for a Cobra shop years ago, they were fully built in south Africa, sent to the shop, then for the engine you talked to the guy with the business next door that just so happened to sell Roush 427 SBF's and arrange installation.

You would have to find a shop in China that would fully build your 68/69 chargers, ship them over, then have engine options for the buyer after it left your hands for legal reasons. This entire thing must cost less than a real 68/69 charger


Didn't read the link I posted

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Nothing to do with cost, or Cafe rules, ect. Just the fact that you could go be able to buy an authentic re-issue of whatever would sell good all over again right now today. Would the masses all want a new red GTO or 289 Mustang once again same as before, or has time changed people's opinions on those super popular cars and they would now want a 71 Challenger or something else that is more unique or desirable? An example would be someone who bought a new 69 Camaro instead of a 69 Charger back then and now realizes that was a huge mistake so today they would run, not walk, to be able to own a new 69 Charger if it was possible to do so.

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I would want to get a 1958 Chevy Impala hardtop with the tri power solid lifter 348 with s stick tranny.
I'm not sure if they offered the 4 speeds in those cars back then, the only one I rode in was a 348 C.I. 4 barrel three on the tree car up boogie
I was able to ride in a 1960 El Camino with the 350 HP 348 with a 4 speed, it was impressive to my 15 year old body and mind in 1960boogie bow grin


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Forgetting all the regulation issues,
69 Camaro, it's a no brainer, you can still go to any track and see them still racing.
Beautiful car, there's a reason they sold so many, why would that change now?

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Originally Posted by BDW
Forgetting all the regulation issues,
69 Camaro, it's a no brainer, you can still go to any track and see them still racing.
Beautiful car, there's a reason they sold so many, why would that change now?


Because everybody that wants one already has two.

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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by Dart 500
The only "legal" way to sell them is as rolling chassis' They've been doing this in the Cobra world for decades. I worked for a Cobra shop years ago, they were fully built in south Africa, sent to the shop, then for the engine you talked to the guy with the business next door that just so happened to sell Roush 427 SBF's and arrange installation.

You would have to find a shop in China that would fully build your 68/69 chargers, ship them over, then have engine options for the buyer after it left your hands for legal reasons. This entire thing must cost less than a real 68/69 charger


Didn't read the link I posted


I dont read anything you post

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Ask Roxor how things are going.

Basically a reissue of a CJ5.


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Originally Posted by ruderunner
Ask Roxor how things are going.

Basically a reissue of a CJ5.


Or Randy Bollinger. They gotta be done as rollers

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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I would want to get a 1958 Chevy Impala hardtop with the tri power solid lifter 348 with s stick tranny.
I'm not sure if they offered the 4 speeds in those cars back then, the only one I rode in was a 348 C.I. 4 barrel three on the tree car up boogie
I was able to ride in a 1960 El Camino with the 350 HP 348 with a 4 speed, it was impressive to my 15 year old body and mind in 1960boogie bow grin


Dig up the old Hot Rod magazines where Roger Huntington did articles on two different 1959 SHP tri power 348 El Caminos. Both of them ran in the 12's. His comments were that they were running faster than gas class cars with legal stock class vehicles.


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