Re: If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new..
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The question would be more based on desirability, and what the majority of people would run out and buy again if they could. They would be brand new older cars that would not have to adhere to all the current rules the new ones do so it would be like being able to go back in time basically. Same engines, Same colors, Same everything as before.
Back then they sold a lot of Mustangs for example and many of those people who had one were not necessarily hardcore car people. I've met numerous people over the years who tell me they or their parents bought one new and that was the one and only collectable type car they ever owned. They just bought one because they were hip, sporty, ect.at the time I wonder if people today would still do that all over again for the same cars and the sales numbers would play out similiar all over again, or if other cars that sold poorly, like E -body stuff, would be what people would get excited about now. At car shows today it's the rare stuff (ie. poor sellers back then) that now get all the attention.
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Re: If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new..
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If I were younger it would be an In-Violet/white interior '70 Hemicuda 4-speed. My current age, it would be an Alpine White/black interior '70 Challenger, 383, maybe 440, auto, cruise and a/c. ![beer beer](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/beer.gif)
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Re: If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new..
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The biggest problem with a re-issue, as far as appearing the same as original, would be bumpers. Impact standards would pretty much preclude E-bodies, '68-'69 Chargers, and most anything with the smaller bumpers. While it's an appealing idea to re-issue an icon or two of the past, the big automakers will never do it. The engineering & manufacturing costs far outweigh the market they see for them.
Don't forget emissions, side impact, rollover, EVAP, permeation, fuel economy, A-pillar vision, crumple zones, air bags, no button door handles, auto lock doors, right side outside mirror standard, rear and front defogger standard, on and on.............
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Re: If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new..
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The biggest problem with a re-issue, as far as appearing the same as original, would be bumpers. Impact standards would pretty much preclude E-bodies, '68-'69 Chargers, and most anything with the smaller bumpers. While it's an appealing idea to re-issue an icon or two of the past, the big automakers will never do it. The engineering & manufacturing costs far outweigh the market they see for them.
Don't forget emissions, side impact, rollover, EVAP, permeation, fuel economy, A-pillar vision, crumple zones, air bags, no button door handles, auto lock doors, right side outside mirror standard, rear and front defogger standard, on and on............. Didn't read the link I posted
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Re: If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new..
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The only "legal" way to sell them is as rolling chassis' They've been doing this in the Cobra world for decades. I worked for a Cobra shop years ago, they were fully built in south Africa, sent to the shop, then for the engine you talked to the guy with the business next door that just so happened to sell Roush 427 SBF's and arrange installation.
You would have to find a shop in China that would fully build your 68/69 chargers, ship them over, then have engine options for the buyer after it left your hands for legal reasons. This entire thing must cost less than a real 68/69 charger Didn't read the link I posted
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Re: If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new..
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07/18/24 05:05 PM
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Nothing to do with cost, or Cafe rules, ect. Just the fact that you could go be able to buy an authentic re-issue of whatever would sell good all over again right now today. Would the masses all want a new red GTO or 289 Mustang once again same as before, or has time changed people's opinions on those super popular cars and they would now want a 71 Challenger or something else that is more unique or desirable? An example would be someone who bought a new 69 Camaro instead of a 69 Charger back then and now realizes that was a huge mistake so today they would run, not walk, to be able to own a new 69 Charger if it was possible to do so.
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Re: If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new..
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Forgetting all the regulation issues, 69 Camaro, it's a no brainer, you can still go to any track and see them still racing. Beautiful car, there's a reason they sold so many, why would that change now? Because everybody that wants one already has two.
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Re: If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new..
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The only "legal" way to sell them is as rolling chassis' They've been doing this in the Cobra world for decades. I worked for a Cobra shop years ago, they were fully built in south Africa, sent to the shop, then for the engine you talked to the guy with the business next door that just so happened to sell Roush 427 SBF's and arrange installation.
You would have to find a shop in China that would fully build your 68/69 chargers, ship them over, then have engine options for the buyer after it left your hands for legal reasons. This entire thing must cost less than a real 68/69 charger Didn't read the link I posted I dont read anything you post
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Re: If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new..
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Ask Roxor how things are going.
Basically a reissue of a CJ5.
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Re: If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new..
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Ask Roxor how things are going.
Basically a reissue of a CJ5. Or Randy Bollinger. They gotta be done as rollers
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Re: If one classic car was to be reproduced and sold new..
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Dig up the old Hot Rod magazines where Roger Huntington did articles on two different 1959 SHP tri power 348 El Caminos. Both of them ran in the 12's. His comments were that they were running faster than gas class cars with legal stock class vehicles.
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