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Re: Chrysler mini van for drive train in an early 50s car [Re: poorboy] #3241929
07/02/24 12:45 PM
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congratulations on your 48 year marriage ! up
we will celebrate 44 years on the 20th of this month, after being together 45 years.
beer

Re: Chrysler mini van for drive train in an early 50s car [Re: moparx] #3242451
07/04/24 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by moparx
congratulations on your 48 year marriage ! up
we will celebrate 44 years on the 20th of this month, after being together 45 years.
beer


Thank you. Yes, marring my wife was one of my smartest moves I made, as I was leaving my teenage years.

Re: Chrysler mini van for drive train in an early 50s car [Re: poorboy] #3243360
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Just to throw more mud into your clean pond of a project...The 3.8 was available in a front engine-rear drive arrangement in like '07-'10 Wranglers.
The 3.3 was also available as a north-south arrangement but still with a front wheel drive transaxle in some Intrepid/Concorde models and I believe the early 3.5 was a variation of the 3.3/3.8.
3.3/3.8 engines disappeared around 2011. Exactly how long do you expect to be able to get things other than water pumps or timing chains? What if your computer or fuel rail goes bad?
Where are you finding these 13-30 year old donors with low mileage that don't have rotted cradles/suspension/etc. in the midwest?
Allpar is a good source of info for that era of all things Mopar. As with your previous projects, I have no doubt it will be cool.


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Re: Chrysler mini van for drive train in an early 50s car [Re: Cheeto] #3243581
07/10/24 11:41 PM
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Funny you should post about the 3.3s in the Intrepid. Around 5 years ago I sent what was a good 3.3 motor & trans to the scrap pile. It had been sitting for nearly 10 years at that point, still have the entire wire harness with everything still attached to it hanging on the wall in my lower garage! It was a nice low miles car that got side swiped in the very early 2000s. Over the years parts of it have been used and other parts scrapped. We had several Intrepids. I likely would not have used an Intrepid as a donor for a hot rod, things were not in compatible locations, I looked into that years ago. A minivan /PT Cruiser have the drive train more compact and would be easier donors.

You all are still missing the point my wife LIKES to drive those front wheel drive vehicles, and has been doing so for the last 30 years. I'm building it for HER, I intend to build something she is going to like.

The average age of vehicles on the roads today is 12-15 years old. Its not hard to find 15-20 year old donors with mechanical issues or crash damage with the parts I need still intact. I can be pretty selective on which donor to buy, and if the price is right, I'm not past buying two, one for the drive train, and one for the undercarriage, probably still be cheaper then buying just a motor from a pick a part. If I buy 2 donors, I'll have a source of parts on the shelf at home.

With the average cars still being used as long as they are, a lot of parts are still going to be around for another 10-15 years. That will put my wife and myself in the 80-85 age group. This stuff doesn't have to last 20 + years for us, and it probably won't see more then another 50,000 miles.

I'll look into Allpar.

Re: Chrysler mini van for drive train in an early 50s car [Re: poorboy] #3243675
07/11/24 01:29 PM
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the one thing about cars of today, drivetrains last for hundreds of thousands of miles, and finding a front drive chrysler product with a rotted off body but perfectly good drivetrain, cheap, is fairly easy to accomplish.
building what your wife WANTS is a good thing, [and i know you are WAY more than capable of doing just that] and if she wants front wheel drive, great ! myself, i think that would simplify things considerably, being able to use a "packaged assembly" that includes everything.
i'm looking forward to see how this project progresses if you decide to undertake it.
beer

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