Anyone trying to get a deal on the discounted 2023 Dodge Challenger R/T's and Charger R/T's at dealership?
Some of these deals seem too good to be true.
Seen some 2023 Challenger R/T's with incentives and discounts bringing the price down to the 28k to 31k.

Stelantis has some of the highest days of inventory of any car manufacturer. You see this with good incentives. I saw that Ram is offering almost $10k on 2500s.

Dealers were living the life after covid inventory shortages with fast moving inventory and able to charge markups and add ons with no issues. They were the last to correct pricing and, as mentioned above, insisted on selling Dodges at BMW prices. Now with supply chain issues resolved, and high interest rates, they can't move cars. On top of that, all the fat prices they got a few years back means folks are underwater on their vehicles and either have to take a loss or hold on, so repeat customer base is reduced too. A lot of moving parts in the industry and its now aligned to shift from sellers market to buyers market.

If in the market for a car, make an offer. In fact, go in even lower. You may get a deal. If I were in the market for a Challenger I would try.

Could conceivably go lower than this price.

https://www.bomninchryslerdodgejeep...ger-8455a75a0a0e081d019f8d901bebdb28.htm

Go ahead and call them to see what the real number will be. I was trying to deal with Naples and Aventura and both of them play HUGE games with the pricing. The price you will pay will not be what is shown on their site.

I actually did that. They stated to me that their dealership states they have a policy where they cannot give a quote over the phone or email. Pretty bogus. I guess they are not interested in selling cars.

Most of the deals shown are indeed too good to be true. The Florida dealers are TERRIBLE at posting crazy low prices. Once you call them, then they add the Hydrogen filled tires, mine detonating security system, paint protection, interior protection, tire protection, lug nut protection, radio knob protection, etc. Before long, they are more $$ than the original MSRP and they will not even think about not supplying the 'packages'.

Nobody quotes over email, you wouldn't either. The customer just sends your email to all the other dealers and asks them to beat it, even if one beats it by $25 they'll buy from that guy, even if you gave him a 3 hour tour of the dealership, bought him lunch and an afternoon test drive.

The local Ford dealer tried that crap on me. I started to walk out and they actually sold it to me for the price they had on the "special sale" tag in the car.

Walk is my suggestion.

that isn't true, my last 3 cars were bought from quotes over email.
you are right, I did do that, but expenses are an issue.
my 2 of the last 3 were bought out of state to save 3 or 4k. not 25 bucks.

Before I bought my car I went and test drove one at a dealer about an hour away from me. When it came to talking numbers the salesman didn't want to move on the price so I walked. I found another car at a dealer about 2 hours away Negotiated a deal over phone and email for that car and ended up with a car with an extra $1400 in options for about $1000 less.
I will say the one thing I learned about is the "dealer add ons". They don't show up on the dealer website but when they start emailing you proposals with detailed pricing they magically appear as a line item. One dealer had $2250 added on for ceramic paint protection, and another had $1400 for some electronic vehicle tracking to aid in recovery in the event your car was stolen. Unfortunately a lot of these dealers are putting these add ons on every vehicle in the lot so by the time the customer goes to purchase a car they have no choice but to accept it whether they want it or not. Kind of reminds me of a Chevy dealer here in town that won't sell a truck without a bedliner installed. I wanted a spray on bedliner so I drove right past this dealer to another one multiple times to buy a truck without a bedliner and then have one sprayed in.

Nobody quotes over email, you wouldn't either. The customer just sends your email to all the other dealers and asks them to beat it, even if one beats it by $25 they'll buy from that guy, even if you gave him a 3 hour tour of the dealership, bought him lunch and an afternoon test drive.

You're wrong about that. Dealerships do give email quotes. Just received one two days ago. This is the new way to car shop.

I assure you it is not. Ive been working in automotive business (from the factory, to the head office to the dealer group) for 30 years and its my day job. Remember back in 08/09 when all those GM dealerships got the pink slip and had to close? Those were dealers too close to another GM dealer because after getting a price in writing they were just driving over and asking them to beat it, and they would and often all the profits would be lost. I had a guy that was selling 40 cars a month at a Nissan store (he was making around $20,000 per month). I asked him how he dealt with the online guys, he simply said to them they are a vert busy high volume dealer and his sales manager will not accept floozie online offers (most ARE BS) and if you truly want the best deal, you have to come in. The serious buyer would come in. Also, this being post 2009, my other top GM salesman would sell 30 cars a month and he made $30,000 a month - so what they did at GM worked. Nissan guy sold 10 more cars and made 10K less because there was (still is) a Nissan dealer a mile away in each direction

That said, car sales are in the toilet right now after all the shenanigans over the last 4 years and they need to sell sell sell so things might be loose at the moment, and should be, I myself have never paid MSRP but I seek out volume stores that get paid by Chrysler on that volume. last I heard they would get $250,000 bonus checks each quarter for hitting sales target, at that rate they can give crazy discounts and I believe we are headed back there, just dont expect to get that bottom price over email - I mean BOTTOM price. You have to show up and be sharp to get that.

Your "assurance" is your opinion. Plenty of cars get sold via online and phone. Yes, in an ideal world, everyone would go to the dealership. But, with car (and in particular higher end cars like Hellcats) allocations and location play a huge roll in who actually has cars. So, it IS common practice today to make deals by not coming into the dealership.

I assure you it is not. Ive been working in automotive business (from the factory, to the head office to the dealer group) for 30 years and its my day job. Remember back in 08/09 when all those GM dealerships got the pink slip and had to close? Those were dealers too close to another GM dealer because after getting a price in writing they were just driving over and asking them to beat it, and they would and often all the profits would be lost. I had a guy that was selling 40 cars a month at a Nissan store (he was making around $20,000 per month). I asked him how he dealt with the online guys, he simply said to them they are a vert busy high volume dealer and his sales manager will not accept floozie online offers (most ARE BS) and if you truly want the best deal, you have to come in. The serious buyer would come in. Also, this being post 2009, my other top GM salesman would sell 30 cars a month and he made $30,000 a month - so what they did at GM worked. Nissan guy sold 10 more cars and made 10K less because there was (still is) a Nissan dealer a mile away in each direction

That said, car sales are in the toilet right now after all the shenanigans over the last 4 years and they need to sell sell sell so things might be loose at the moment, and should be, I myself have never paid MSRP but I seek out volume stores that get paid by Chrysler on that volume. last I heard they would get $250,000 bonus checks each quarter for hitting sales target, at that rate they can give crazy discounts and I believe we are headed back there, just dont expect to get that bottom price over email - I mean BOTTOM price. You have to show up and be sharp to get that.

Can anyone provide an example of a legit discount on a car that actually exists for sale?

Haven't heard of anything. I have heard of dealerships pulling the same BS that they always have, though.

Buddy ordered a challenger, dealership liked the car so much the decided to keep it for their own stock and screwed him out of it.