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Re: Tool snob? [Re: rdrnr6970] #3238115
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Anyone that has used Hand tools to make a living understands and appreciates the value in the "Show" tools.

Hmmmm? If it's a "show" tool it's not being used. Like what Snap on does and puts out some gold plated wrenches i guess you are supposed to put up on the wall. WHY? I think there regular tools have a price tag that reflects the gold plated ones. Not knocking Snap on but I'm not getting a loan to buy them. Most of my stuff is USA made Craftsman. I needed a large metric impact allen for a job and got a set from Harbor Freight. I used them a few times until one of them broke and flew across the room. If my arm was in it's path it would have sliced it up. I knew what i was buying so i'm not surprised it failed. But where else can you get tools fast with out calling one of the "tool truck$"? I think HF should step up and start selling better made tools. It's a joke what you find in the local Lowes for tools compared to what was in Sears. If i need something of decent quality i hit ebay. Cheepo stuff is not worth it when it breaks. But on the other hand i'm not getting on a payment plan to buy it either.

Re: Tool snob? [Re: Moparite] #3238246
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Been wrenching since 1980,yes almost all my tools are snap on with a few old craftsman.When you use them everyday their is a difference.

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Originally Posted by GarageDodge
Been wrenching since 1980,yes almost all my tools are snap on with a few old craftsman.When you use them everyday their is a difference.

I was a part timer until about 25 years back when I went full time with the business. those same craftsman tools took the abuse of several different employees as I supplied the tools and equipment (bad idea by the way). At one point I had 4 total so I can't knock the quality of the old craftsman stuff. beer

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Snob, No not all . When I was a kid I worked on my cars with tools such vice grips, pliers, adjustable wrenches, big screw drivers and a hammer. I also had a small SK socket set and a piece of pipe for tightening the big bolts. I worked with what I had. LOL


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Re: Tool snob? [Re: mopars4ever] #3238315
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one also needs a LARGE selection of BFH's !
ya never know when ya need a BIGGER one to get the job done ! panic laugh2
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Originally Posted by mopars4ever
Snob, No not all . When I was a kid I worked on my cars with tools such vice grips, pliers, adjustable wrenches, big screw drivers and a hammer. I also had a small SK socket set and a piece of pipe for tightening the big bolts. I worked with what I had. LOL


Reminds me of a departed freind that rebuilt his 283 chevy back in 66 or so. Said he didn't have a torque wrench so he tightened the rod bolts as tight as he could with a 1/2" breaker bar and a short pipe ( while lying on his back in a driveway). After tightening # 6 rod the motor wouldn't turn. He had to rent a torque wrench after loosing the bolts. Said it ran fine except for the cylinder with the broken rings from falling off the work bench 🙄🤣🤣

Re: Tool snob? [Re: moparx] #3238361
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Originally Posted by moparx
one also needs a LARGE selection of BFH's !
ya never know when ya need a BIGGER one to get the job done ! panic laugh2
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Re: Tool snob? [Re: pittsburghracer] #3238436
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When buying tools from HF- and you don't want the cheap stuff that they are known for stay away from their Pittsburg line. I have Pittsburg impact sockets and regular sockets, but I am a weekend DIYer, and they work fine. But HF offers much better hand tools for a higher price. Their flagship line of hand tools is called Icon. I have none but the reviews are very good. Pittsburg screwdrivers are not good enough even for the kitchen drawer and Pittsburg channel lock type pliers simply break your hand and knuckles when they give out.


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Re: Tool snob? [Re: 2boltmain] #3238450
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I am aware of the Icon tool line but it's limited to "basic" tools. They need to expand it and don't know the quality.

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I must be easy on tools because I use a lot of Pittsburgh brand sockets and ratchets and love them. I recently bought their 225 piece set to throw in my vehicle when I go on trips.


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Re: Tool snob? [Re: pittsburghracer] #3238585
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by 2boltmain
Originally Posted by slantzilla
I have everything from Snap On to Globemaster. Lately I buy stuff off Amazon or Harbor Freight. At 66 I am not worried about them lasting a lifetime anymore.
I rarely break a tool but I sure as heck lose them!!!!!!!!!!!!





I’m good with everything but screwdrivers. I swear they evaporate


We had the screwdriver problem until I did the following, Haven't lost one since wink Athletics mat from AMZ or wally word, CHEAP beer

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My screwdriver drawer probably has 100 screwdrivers in it. You pretty much dig through the pile to find the one you want, then when your done, and put them back in the drawer, you sort of shuffle the screwdrivers around so you can close the drawer again.

I have an older set of the HF Pittsburgh screwdrivers, they are the go to drivers in the drawer, but the set I got a few months ago are really junk. I keep them on my bench to lend out. The big flat ones don't even make good chisels, hit them with a hammer and the handle mushrooms out, and the blade self destructs! Junk I tell you! whistling

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I have never set foot in a Harbor Freight store so far. Is that a world record?

Re: Tool snob? [Re: Neil] #3238598
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I’ll buy and use just about any socket or wrench that’s made in USA like it’s supposed to be. I still have a lot of the original craftsman master set I bought before I could drive. I also still have the snap on rackets I quickly, and I mean quickly, bought because I couldn’t stand the crapsman ones. My favorite is the 3/8 flex head. I had a panic a few years ago because I put the rackets in a special box to keep out of the movers hands. That one of course got misplaced and I was sure they were swiped for about a month. I’m not sure I know how to work on a car without those.


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Originally Posted by TJP
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by 2boltmain
Originally Posted by slantzilla
I have everything from Snap On to Globemaster. Lately I buy stuff off Amazon or Harbor Freight. At 66 I am not worried about them lasting a lifetime anymore.
I rarely break a tool but I sure as heck lose them!!!!!!!!!!!!





I’m good with everything but screwdrivers. I swear they evaporate


We had the screwdriver problem until I did the following, Haven't lost one since wink Athletics mat from AMZ or wally word, CHEAP beer





That tray wouldn’t work for me as I have to many places that I use them. My shop, the house garage, the house, and the biggest issue is my race car trailer. To many projects start in the shop and get finished at the race track so they end up in my trailer’s tool box.


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I'm sure all of you have heard of Gear Wrench, They are made in China! I use them and have not been disappointed. I got this a number of years ago for about $200 on sale. It's not where they are made but the materials and process used to make them. I often wonder what you find in a mechanic's tool box in China? It sure ain't anything from Harbor Freight.

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Guilty.

Boxes, the tall ones with bottoms, centers and tops, before everyone had the 2 or 3 bay bottom cabs. 99.9% full of Snap-On stuff. Might be a Mac or Matco wrench set in there. Snap on air tools. USA made precision measuring tools. Use it everyday. Spent a lot of years making payments on a dealership mechanic's pay. Still buy Snappy if I need something.

Another Snappy cabinet full of fabrication stuff.


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People rag on Snap On, but I noticed they were the tools that got "borroed one way" out of my boxes at work.


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Originally Posted by poorboy
My screwdriver drawer probably has 100 screwdrivers in it. You pretty much dig through the pile to find the one you want, then when your done, and put them back in the drawer, you sort of shuffle the screwdrivers around so you can close the drawer again. Wasting time wink

I have an older set of the HF Pittsburgh screwdrivers, they are the go to drivers in the drawer, but the set I got a few months ago are really junk. I keep them on my bench to lend out. The big flat ones don't even make good chisels, hit them with a hammer and the handle mushrooms out, and the blade self destructs! Junk I tell you! whistling


Therein lies the problem wink organize the good ones as shown and put the others in another place that will make them available if needed.
I have a junk screwdriver area sectioned off in another drawer. I only look there for modified special use ones, or ones I can modify if needed.
The organizing saves time and makes one aware if one is missing. A kwik scan at the end of the day is all it takes wink beer

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Originally Posted by TJP
Originally Posted by poorboy
My screwdriver drawer probably has 100 screwdrivers in it. You pretty much dig through the pile to find the one you want, then when your done, and put them back in the drawer, you sort of shuffle the screwdrivers around so you can close the drawer again. Wasting time wink

I have an older set of the HF Pittsburgh screwdrivers, they are the go to drivers in the drawer, but the set I got a few months ago are really junk. I keep them on my bench to lend out. The big flat ones don't even make good chisels, hit them with a hammer and the handle mushrooms out, and the blade self destructs! Junk I tell you! whistling


Therein lies the problem wink organize the good ones as shown and put the others in another place that will make them available if needed.
I have a junk screwdriver area sectioned off in another drawer. I only look there for modified special use ones, or ones I can modify if needed.
The organizing saves time and makes one aware if one is missing. A kwik scan at the end of the day is all it takes wink beer


Did you catch that:
1) I am retired. Wasting time is not such a big deal.
2) I have a top box and a bottom box, neither very big. There is no more drawer space, and there is not going to be a larger tool box. This current box has served me well for 30+ years.
3) I'm retired. I probably don't work on stuff much more then a few hours A WEEK! I'm not buying anything I don't absolutely need.
4) You wanting to be a tool snob is of no concern of mine. You go right on and keep buying. I'm fine with where I am.

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