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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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04/08/24 09:57 AM
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Ive used my half ton quad cab truck with an open behind it a few times. No issues . Even averaged almost 14 mpg like that
I can / will say the enclosed behind it is definitely noticeable difference in how it pulls and fuel mileage change from the open.
I just pulled it 2000 miles home . Plan is use it again later this spring / summer trip back east with my car. I was in the 8 to 10 mpg range most of the trip. Speeds ranged from 65 to 75 mph for most of the way.
Im sure a 3/4 ton diesel would be a better option.
BUT,
I have no long term plans to keep the enclosed past the spring of next year . So I have have zero interest to upgrade my truck for a once a year trip with the trailer behind it.
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: Rhinodart]
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04/08/24 11:24 AM
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My advice would be to be sure and get 16" wheels and tires, at least 24 foot and a winch. Overkill for what he needs. I did look at a set of 16" 6-bolt aluminum wheels and tires for $1000 yesterday, just can't justify the cost. As much as he is going to use it the upgrade wouldn't be cost effective, he doesn't need 5200 lb axles either...  As someone who has towed a whole lot I respect your opinion, however after he blows out a few 15" tires he might feel different, if buying new I don't think (but don't know) if it would be that much more. I recommended 24ft for resale value and the winch for convenience.
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
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04/08/24 11:56 AM
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Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy
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My advice would be to be sure and get 16" wheels and tires, at least 24 foot and a winch. Overkill for what he needs. I did look at a set of 16" 6-bolt aluminum wheels and tires for $1000 yesterday, just can't justify the cost. As much as he is going to use it the upgrade wouldn't be cost effective, he doesn't need 5200 lb axles either... As someone who has towed a whole lot I respect your opinion, however after he blows out a few 15" tires he might feel different, if buying new I don't think (but don't know) if it would be that much more. I recommended 24ft for resale value and the winch for convenience. I agree with all your statements, if he was planning on towing a lot. I did blow out 4 tires last year while towing 120K miles, but most of that was on me for knowing the tires needed replaced. The one thing I do recommend is to inflate your tires cold 10 lbs more than the tire rating says, and keep them covered when the trailer is sitting... If you but a trailer for resale then you are doing it wrong, though most enclosed trailers lose little value over the years. 24' is always the best bet...
The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: Rhinodart]
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04/08/24 01:39 PM
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Avondale AZ
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I have used a 24ft Interstate for the last 10 years to haul my 68 road runner. It has worked flawlessly!
Aaron
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69 Dart GT Conv. 383/AT
05 Dodge Ram 4x4 Cummins
06 GoManGo R/T Daytona #757
68 Coronet 440
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: moparx]
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04/09/24 07:43 PM
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Then there are some of us who actually wear them out, and still blow them because we are pushing too hard...  are these blowouts related to your transmission woes ? [asking for a fiend, er, i mean, friend..........  ]  Nope, totally independent of my tranny problems. I am just ahead of the curve on tranny's...
The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: Rhinodart]
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04/10/24 12:26 PM
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Marion, South Carolina [><]
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Just for comparison...as far as fuel mileage.
2005 Chevrolet 2500HD 4x4 6.0 GAS engine.
unloaded (no trailer) normal driving...12 mpg
loaded OPEN car trailer...10-11 mpg and felt like it had plenty of power.
loaded 24' ENCLOSED trailer...around 5 mpg (at best) and felt like it had NO power.
2006 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax diesel
unloaded (no trailer) normal driving...16-17 mpg
never calculated it w/ the open car trailer b/c I rarely use it anymore.
loaded 24' ENCLOSED trailer...10 mpg and has plenty of power. Feels like it would still drag it 80 mph w/ 4 flat tires. The truck is basically stock, no programmer/tuner or anything.
I don't tend to drive very easy when pulling the trailer. It has the power so I like to use it, lol.
When I say the enclosed is loaded, it has my 3500 lb. cuda, a golf cart, plus tools and other crap in it.
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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04/11/24 10:20 AM
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Just for comparison...as far as fuel mileage.
2005 Chevrolet 2500HD 4x4 6.0 GAS engine.
unloaded (no trailer) normal driving...12 mpg
loaded OPEN car trailer...10-11 mpg and felt like it had plenty of power.
loaded 24' ENCLOSED trailer...around 5 mpg (at best) and felt like it had NO power.
2006 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax diesel
unloaded (no trailer) normal driving...16-17 mpg
never calculated it w/ the open car trailer b/c I rarely use it anymore.
loaded 24' ENCLOSED trailer...10 mpg and has plenty of power. Feels like it would still drag it 80 mph w/ 4 flat tires. The truck is basically stock, no programmer/tuner or anything.
I don't tend to drive very easy when pulling the trailer. It has the power so I like to use it, lol.
When I say the enclosed is loaded, it has my 3500 lb. cuda, a golf cart, plus tools and other crap in it.
My truck is a 2012 Ram quad cab, Hemi auto, 3.92 rear axle. Gets right at 18-20 mpg empty I rented an open U haul trailer last year to pick up a car in Ca averaged right at 14mpg. and you could barely notice it was even there. my trip back form Ky with this enclosed and a partial load is getting in the 8-10 range It never felt like it didnt have any power or did it have any trouble pulling or stopping it 
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: gtx6970]
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04/11/24 10:53 AM
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Marion, South Carolina [><]
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The newer trucks are much better power-wise than the older stuff I drive. I was just sharing that for comparison reasons.
I have a 2017 Ram 1500 hemi I drive daily, but after towing the open trailer w/ it, I don't feel it would handle my enclosed very well.
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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04/11/24 03:16 PM
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No arguments from me.
I'll agree a half ton pickup may not be ideal. But I dont plan to use it enough to justify a newer / bigger truck purchase , And so far from people I've talked to . A diesel doesnt get much better mileage towing then mine does, if at all
But for the limited number of times I plan to use this trailer.
My truck will live.
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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04/13/24 10:10 AM
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Living in tire he77 (desert SW) there’s no WAY I’d ever settle for a 15” trailer tire again, but our environment and towing needs are different than what the OP is after. Race car, golf cart, summertime 150 degree + road temps and tire temps that’ll run in the 160s. 16” G rated tire at 100psi has been a game changer over us throwing away good appearing tires every two years not to mention the side of the road “fun” changing a tire and repairing the trailer  Funny thing on the modern 1500 is some have an equal job rating as my old 01 2500 diesel…… A nice 3500 srw crew 8ft bed 17 came in on trade two years ago at work so even though I’d convinced myself that a 6.4 Hemi 2500 would probably suit our needs nicely, we replaced the 01 with another oil burner. I will say it’s an absolute joy to tow with.
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: Rhinodart]
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04/14/24 10:02 PM
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Highland, MI.
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Rule #1, DO NOT buy an enclosed trailer manufactured in GEORGIA! Now having said that, what do you plan on bringing with you to shows besides you car? I have owned around 20 enclosed trailers in the last 35 years and tow for a living. My minimum is 24' for that, but I also have a 32' LQ trailer with a 20' garage and it is adequate for most anything and will work for a Roadrunner. Being that you tow with a 1500 I would consider a 20'-22' but if you plan on taking a grille, lots of chairs, a pop-up tent, and larger coolers then a 24' would be good. Trailers have gone nuts in pricing and you get what you pay for. Aluminum such as ATC, Featherlite, and Rance are the best out there and pricey! Some of the better non-aluminum are Load Trail, H&H, Sure Trac, Stealth, and Vintage/Millenium. There are dozens of brands, so do your homework! Rhino - are any of them air-ride yet?
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
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04/14/24 10:49 PM
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Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy
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Rule #1, DO NOT buy an enclosed trailer manufactured in GEORGIA! Now having said that, what do you plan on bringing with you to shows besides you car? I have owned around 20 enclosed trailers in the last 35 years and tow for a living. My minimum is 24' for that, but I also have a 32' LQ trailer with a 20' garage and it is adequate for most anything and will work for a Roadrunner. Being that you tow with a 1500 I would consider a 20'-22' but if you plan on taking a grille, lots of chairs, a pop-up tent, and larger coolers then a 24' would be good. Trailers have gone nuts in pricing and you get what you pay for. Aluminum such as ATC, Featherlite, and Rance are the best out there and pricey! Some of the better non-aluminum are Load Trail, H&H, Sure Trac, Stealth, and Vintage/Millenium. There are dozens of brands, so do your homework! Rhino - are any of them air-ride yet? These are real nice, saw them at the PRI show, expensive but worth it. https://maxxdtrailers.com/drop-n-load-trailers/They hade an enclosed trailer there, I think it had removable sides...
Last edited by Rhinodart; 04/14/24 10:51 PM.
The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.
JB Rhinehart, Realist
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: Rhinodart]
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04/15/24 09:26 AM
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There have been some fairly priced ones on Facebook over the past two months for some reason. They need some fancying up but have lots of miles left in Them for 5000.00-5800.00
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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04/15/24 11:37 AM
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There have been some fairly priced ones on Facebook over the past two months for some reason. They need some fancying up but have lots of miles left in Them for 5000.00-5800.00
Ive been watching for a decent enclosed trailer out here for the better part of the last 6 - 8 months or more. Trailers in that price range either dont exist. If they do, They are gone instantly. Ive not seen anything under about $7000 around here for a 20 plus year old trailer . I called on a 2014 ish 22ft with V nose back in Jan listed for $8500 and it was gone in an hour With expenses I spent to go get it Im in mine for right about $5000 . I bought it from a long time friend of mine . It isn't my ideal length. But will do exactly what I need it to do this summer and next spring. Then will most likely,,,get resold.
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Re: Enclosed car trailersI
[Re: gtx6970]
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04/25/24 07:37 PM
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Hamilton, Ontario Canada
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Once you decide on a trailer. You will have to consider upgrades.
I drove flatbed tow truck for 5 years. Secured the cars on the bed with chains, wheel straps through the rims and wheel straps. Holding the car by the frame is the worst thing you can do to a car. It feels solid but when that bed or trailer hits bumps it will bang into the chains and oval out holes. If the car dips on the suspension, all good. When it extends up, it will smash into the chains so hard dirt and rust will be sitting on the bed to prove what happened.
E tracks to secure all 4 tires is the best method. Have 3 fail and the car will still be there. This is how all the manufacturers tow the new cars.
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