I also think it's time for Dodge to move on and forget about anything retro or anything back beyond now. We're not their customer or market now so create something new and go on your fairy, oops very way, Even the Bee looks odd and not that retro for the most part to me, and probably created by AI .

I think they are both VERY good looking cars. I'm surprised the design is as sharp as it is, and includes a very traditional appearing large sedan. Yes, I wish they were purely gas V8's, supercharged too, and an turbo six would be fine, but at least they aren't hideous cars (IMO) like the Mach E and many others. I'll stick with my gas powered ones but again, I like the looks a lot and you cannot deny the power they make.