https://www.arcamax.com/business/businessnews/s-3134952

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Additionally, gas-powered mid-priced cars and crossovers like the Chevrolet Equinox or Toyota Camry had an average fueling cost of $10.71 per 100 purposeful miles. Charging mostly at home, EVs like the Ford Mustang Mach-E and Tesla Model 3 had an estimated cost per 100 miles of $12.61. The cost while using mostly commercial charging was even higher at $16.11.

There was one exception to the higher costs for EVs. When charged mostly at home, luxury EVs like the Tesla Model S and Mercedes-Benz EQS came out at $13.50 per 100 purposeful miles, compared to $17.81 using mostly commercial charging. The cost was $17.30 for gas-powered luxury vehicles like the Cadillac CT5 and Lexus ES. Premium-gas users increased the difference.

For pickup trucks, fueling up an Ford F-Series truck, Chevrolet Silverado, Ram 1500 or other gas-powered options was estimated at $17 per 100 purposeful miles. It was $16.86 for diesel. Meanwhile, charging an F-150 Lightning or a Rivian R1T mostly at home came out to $17.75 and mostly using commercial chargers raised the cost to $26.39.

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Those numbers are pretty close for my '22 Silverado work truck. After almost 40k miles I average 17 mpg and gas was $2.79 last fill up.

Interesting but to me they seemed rather vague about the electricity costs they were using. Although it seemed like they were using Michigan's higher than average rates.

Do those home costs include the cost of the charge station?

Do they include expected maintenance on both vehicle?

Total cost to operate is a bit different i would think.

Not defending one or the other but lots of factors go into my car costs.

Insurance also
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I have students who Uber to class because Uber 2 days a week is cheaper than a car note, insurance, gas etc.

Those numbers are way off for Oregon. Here in Oregon I can drive 100 miles in my Leaf for around $3. My Toyota 4Runner costs about $12 for 100 miles and my Dodge Ram is more like $15+ for 100 miles.

I keep track of all expenses for all of my vehicles for tax purposes since they are all used as business vehicles. The EV is dramatically cheaper to drive than either the 4Runner or the Dodge Ram.

The IRS has per mile driven amounts that vary by type of use,
which you can compare to above article after correcting for 100 mile versus 1 mile,
although it is not clear whether IRS includes an allowed labor charge for driving:


“Beginning on January 1, 2023, the standard mileage rates for the use of a car (also vans, pickups or panel trucks) will be:

65.5 cents per mile driven for business use, up 3 cents from the midyear increase setting the rate for the second half of 2022.

22 cents per mile driven for medical or moving purposes for qualified active-duty members of the Armed Forces, consistent with the increased midyear rate set for the second half of 2022.

14 cents per mile driven in service of charitable organizations; the rate is set by statute and remains unchanged from 2022.

These rates apply to electric and hybrid-electric automobiles, as well as gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles.”

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https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-is...-business-use-increases-3-cents-per-mile

Headline in WSJ:
Apple Abandons its Electric Car Project

body of article says “$ Billions spent”

To the EPA, CARB, Environmentalists and even the manufactures the costs to drive 100 miles means $#!t to all of them it's the amount of low emissions credit they get for making them. They could build one that only took a buck fifty ($1.50) to go 100 miles but if it produced twice as much of an emission penalty it would never make it to market. It's not about the cost to go 100 miles per customer (YOU) they could give a crap about your money savings, it's about them and their money savings. So go and buy into all of the lying hype about how economical an EV is and I'll keep buying an ICE. THEY ARE NOT BUILDING EV's FOR YOU, THEY ARE BUILDING THEM FOR THEM AND TO MAKE MONEY FOR THEM and one of the reasons to meet emissions numbers for THEM NOT YOU! If it were for "Cost to travel 100 miles" they would totally forget about the amount of emissions the vehicle produces and make a dirty ICE or dirty hybrid that got 200 miles per gallon. We're being scammed........again.

The 65.5 cents per mile is really close to what my actual expenses are. I use actual numbers rather than the IRS number and I ended up with $6900 of car related expenses last year. That is gas, tires, repairs, registration, etc. for the vehicles that I use for my business. I think the total miles driven was a little over 10,000.

But the EV was almost zero. No maintenance costs just a few hundred for tags.

Some states are getting wise to the heavy evs busting up the roads and not paying any highway tax at the pumps. They anre putting a fee on them. Even hybrids are getting an extra fee assessed too.

Latest budget from province of Alberta, they are going to ADD $200 to EV registration . . . to cover the loss of fuel tax revenue for road maintenance. I believe Saskatchewan to east of us in Alberta does this too !

For me it is less about the cost to go 100 miles than it is about usefulness. We do have a high mpg sedan (Hyundai Elantra ECO - over 40 mpg on the highway), but there are some things it cannot do. Like tow a trailer. We bought a diesel pusher RV in part so that we can stay at my son's place for a couple of nights. Fuel to get there will be expensive, but we won't have a motel bill.

Way past time to do this. A free ride can only go on so long. Our roads could definitely use more work/maintenance, but the money will probably go somewhere else.

At 14 mpg, and $6.00 a gallon for diesel I spend about $42 to travel 100 miles. Electricity is .28 cents a kw. It would be a lot cheaper to drive a Lighting. Purchasing, insuring, and registering is another story

How do you average the cost of a home charging station into this, My friend had the power company pull in a larger service also.

To be fair I would think look at the service life if the vehicle and divide installation costs over that time.

I.e. if you expect the ev to last 10 years and the cost to install charger is 10,000 then the cost per year would be 1,000.
I made the numbers up but the concept is valid. I would be interested in what actual numbers are to install a station.


Doesn't the ev use tires too?
To be accurate you should look at tire wear per mile on each car then factor in costs over the miles driven.

You didn't say, but if you replaced tires on 2 gas vehicles that already had 2 years of wear or driven 10 times as much as the ev that had brand new tires when you got it, the numbers may be off.
No doubt the ev is cheaper for the short term but long term will be less rosey. Still better I think but not as pretty as right now.

Like redoing what they just did! There are two roads near me that where repaved about a year ago. Well they cut sections of the surface to access something under it. Leaving the road surface with patches/bumps! So now it's not much better than the was it was before. Our brain dead politicians at their best! Maybe fix/access what's under the road first then repave it. They had a sign saying your tax dollars at work, But they didn't say how much money they wasted doing the job twice!

LOL. Its the same everywhere. Here by me they repaved one of the main roads. The paving company must have had something wrong with their machine that created 'waves' in the pavement. Literally when you drive on it, it vibrates the whole car. Everyone complained to the road commission about how crappy of a job they had done. We got told that "it will smooth out over time"....LOL. Yea...No. Its been 2+ years and it will still vibrate your teeth. I'm sure someone got a kickback for the terrible job done.

and over and over, rinse and repeat.................

The staggeringly high cost is the national one to upgrade all the 19,200 volt to 750,000 volt powerlines.

On top of the cost is the vast time involved in lawsuits because of NIMBY where no one wants powerlines and towers crossing their property.

If every gas furnace and stove in homes, and gas fired peaking turbine is shut down, the needed added Kilowatts of just the HV grid staggers the engineers who would have to erect it - even if every roof gets solar cells with a Tesla Powerwall-like battery pack and inverter.

Every freshman engineering student, and each college Physics student, should be assigned homework problems to calculate out the needed Kilowatts, added capital costs, and yearly interest to be paid on the new debt. That assignment will not happen at today’s universities.