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Re: 440 Source Crankshaft journal diameters are very different. [Re: HardcoreB] #3211087
02/06/24 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by HardcoreB
I measured an Ohio and it was pretty consistent FWIW.


I'd say less than .001 difference over all journals is pretty damn consistent !!

Re: 440 Source Crankshaft journal diameters are very different. [Re: Stanton] #3211095
02/06/24 11:36 AM
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From what I hear the crankshaft manufactures are targeting low end of the spec or even slightly below to get the clearance where most performance builders what it. Most shoot for .001" for every inch of journal diameter so in our case .0028" clearance. If the journals where at nominal diameter it would probably be way to tight of a clearance.

Same for rod journals except that chevy journal sizes have a wider selection of under and oversized bearings.

AG.


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Re: 440 Source Crankshaft journal diameters are very different. [Re: turbobitt] #3211108
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I doubt it will be an issue for what you are doing. AS stated send it back if you feel like it but no guarantee the next one wont be different or "better".


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Re: 440 Source Crankshaft journal diameters are very different. [Re: 19_Dart_68] #3211120
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If you haven't measured your clearances you haven't found a problem.


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Re: 440 Source Crankshaft journal diameters are very different. [Re: feets] #3211318
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wheres 440sourcedotcom you know they seen this what there answer ???

Re: 440 Source Crankshaft journal diameters are very different. [Re: HEMI472] #3211338
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So, I was very wrong to be worried...and I am very impressed.
I went back over the crankshaft and re-measured everything. Made very sure I was getting the measurements using the same amount of drag across the journals with the mic...

Main Journal Measurements:

#1 - 2.7493
#2 - 2.7494
#3 - 2.7492
#4 - 2.7493
#5 - 2.7493

only .0002" variance between all journals

I set up my dial bore gauge off of each main journal measurement and came up with the following bearing clearances:

#1 - .0024
#2 - .0024
#3 - .0020
#4 - .0028
#5 - .0028

I'm going to swap the lower bearing halves for 1 and 2 with 4 and 5 and see what happens. Ran out of time tonight.

The issue is me being rusty, not the machine work.


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Re: 440 Source Crankshaft journal diameters are very different. [Re: 19_Dart_68] #3211376
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When in doubt, measure enough times to remove all DOUBT wrenchup bow grin
i like those measurements up

Good for you bow up

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Re: 440 Source Crankshaft journal diameters are very different. [Re: Cab_Burge] #3211478
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
When in doubt, measure enough times to remove all DOUBT wrenchup bow grin
i like those measurements up

Good for you bow up


Yes sir! I also verified with a T-gauge and micrometer measurement...That was within .0002" of an inch of the direct measurements with the dial bore gauge...so definitely happy!

Hoping to get the mains switched around and re-checked and get the rods done tonight as well.

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