Re: UPDATE on TTI header rust
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So we agree, inside coating is limited coverage and most positives are in the beginning of the header? I believe it's safe to assume that area has the highest temps in a typical header, how do we fairly judge its longevity and therefore its benefits? Haven't heard anybody mention any concerns on the inside of used coated headers.
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Re: UPDATE on TTI header rust
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Again, according to CCP; if the coating changes color and texture nearer to the exhaust port, it is usually due to a lean condition. If the change of color and texture is further down the tube, it is usually due to an overly rich condition because the excess fuel is burning down there.
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Re: UPDATE on TTI header rust
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I don't think I would coat SS headers on the outside, but I would definitely consider coating them on the inside. Why? I am unconvinced inside coating is more than a few limited inches amounts to much anyway but I am open to be proven wrong. You could try Eastwood's Internal Exhaust Coating - it comes with a long nozzle and gets good reviews: https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-hi-temp-internal-exhaust-coating-w-nozzle.html I have wondered about this product. Obviously this is meant for unused headers because how can a used header be cleaned sufficiently internally for proper adhesion?
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Re: UPDATE on TTI header rust
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Does it require or benefit from any post treatment oven cure/bake?
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Re: UPDATE on TTI header rust
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i guess i'll find out, as i ordered a couple of cans of that stuff. [as well as several other items that were on sale, so i ended up with free shipping, as well as $15.00 off my order] wouldn't be the first time i threw money away on stuff that didn't work. i have a set of TTI step headers someone trashed the primary pipes trying to get them to fit straight plug heads. i'm almost done repairing the one side, and i plan on blasting them good from both ends having it done with an industrial blaster using a flexible hose down each tube. good thing i got these pipes super cheap.
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Re: UPDATE on TTI header rust
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I have wondered about this product. Obviously this is meant for unused headers because how can a used header be cleaned sufficiently internally for proper adhesion?
Could likely clean the inside of a dirty used set by using pipe cleaner brushes combined with spraying down each tube with an aerosol solvent. Exhaust soot can be pretty stubborn so just solvent without the brushes may not accomplish much. I imagine it would be a dirty job as well.
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Re: UPDATE on TTI header rust
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I have wondered about this product. Obviously this is meant for unused headers because how can a used header be cleaned sufficiently internally for proper adhesion?
Could likely clean the inside of a dirty used set by using pipe cleaner brushes combined with spraying down each tube with an aerosol solvent. Exhaust soot can be pretty stubborn so just solvent without the brushes may not accomplish much. I imagine it would be a dirty job as well. Make sure whatever solvent is used does not leave a residue behind. Acetone followed by alcohol usually works well. Certain brand a of brake clean can as well but some do leave a residual film
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Re: UPDATE on TTI header rust
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I would also think any header with lots of run time with leaded race gas would be generating a lot of toxic lead in the residues and airborne if using any brushes.
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Re: UPDATE on TTI header rust
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Lots of positive posts regarding JetHot coatings. Obviously, they should seriously be considered.
Any similar love for CCP?
I haven't sent the new TTIs off to a coater yet. As I have said; I have been leaning towards CCP largely because they have participated here and took the time to discuss my order with me.
I would welcome any and all experiences with either coater as I make this decision.
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Re: UPDATE on TTI header rust
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Has anyone ordered the TTI headers with the nickel plating? I had a contract gig with a company that made tools for most of the companies except for Snap-On, and they plating everything with a nickel-chrome solution. They did that before roll die forming the brand and part numbers into the sockets.
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Re: UPDATE on TTI header rust
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Again, under hood heat would be the biggest disadvantage.
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Re: UPDATE on TTI header rust
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Has anyone ordered the TTI headers with the nickel plating? I had a contract gig with a company that made tools for most of the companies except for Snap-On, and they plating everything with a nickel-chrome solution. They did that before roll die forming the brand and part numbers into the sockets. Understand typical "chrome" plating is effectively nearly clear, very shiny, and somewhat durable Chromium plating over very reflective base plate of nickel. I doubt that process undermines the nickel plating but more enhances its durability, which is not high anyway in limited external air flow settings as an exhaust coating IMO.
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