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John Ritter, Lucille Ball, Albert Einstein #3197951
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All died from a sudden aortic rupture with no warning.

For the first time a special type of MRI can detect the danger in advance:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-12-unstable-fluttering-aortic-aneurysm-accuracy.html

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"Aortic aneurysms are colloquially referred to as 'silent killers' because they often go undetected until catastrophic dissection or rupture occurs," said Northwestern's Neelesh A. Patankar, senior author of the study. "The fundamental physics driving aneurysms has been unknown. As a result, there is no clinically approved protocol to predict them. Now, we have demonstrated the efficacy of a physics-based metric that helps predict future growth. This could be transformational in predicting cardiac pathologies."
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An aortic aneurysm occurs when the aorta (the largest artery in the human body) swells to greater than 1.5 times its original size. As it grows, the aorta's wall weakens. Eventually, the wall becomes so weak that it can no longer withstand the pressure of blood flowing through it, causing the aorta to rupture. Although rare, an aortic rupture is usually unpredictable and almost always fatal.
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"If it ruptures when the person is outside of a hospital, the death rate is close to 100%," Zhao added. "The blood supply to the body stops, so critical organs like the brain can no longer function."
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Surprisingly, the researchers discovered that instability tends to arise when the wall is more flexible. This finding directly contradicts common knowledge that aortic stiffness is a sign of disease.

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I have had two friends suddenly die of aortic rupture who seemed to be
just not good,
but in “high energy and good health.”

Re: John Ritter, Lucille Ball, Albert Einstein [Re: 360view] #3198034
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A childhood friend's younger brother died of this 3 years ago. He laid around hurting for a couple of hours before he called his niece who lived nearby. He lived alone. By the time they got him to the hospital, he was unconscious. They opened him up, fixed the tear, but he never woke up; brain had gone without oxygen. The surgeon said it wasn't a big tear and that, in Tim's case, they could have saved him if he hadn't waited so long.

There was an episode of the show 'Autopsy' that did a segment on Lucile Ball. She had just had heart surgery and was in recovery, but years of smoking had taken their toll and it just let go big time. No way to save her even though she was already in the ICU.


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Re: John Ritter, Lucille Ball, Albert Einstein [Re: Rhinodart] #3198046
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My stepfather had what they called a triple-A, Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm. I don't know if I ever heard how they found it, but they went in and fixed it within a matter of days. The doctor told my mom (a nurse) afterwards that if he was in the operating room on the table with the surgeon standing over him with a scalpel in his hand when it ruptured, he would probably not have survived.

I had a guy that worked for me after I started with the City, then retired a few years later. He would get up every morning and walk around the section (4 miles). An RN would see him walking every morning, then one day as she was coming up behind him, he staggered and fell. She stopped to see if he was ok, and he had no pulse. They said his aorta had a 6 inch zipper-tear that basically dumped his entire blood supply into his chest cavity in seconds.

Re: John Ritter, Lucille Ball, Albert Einstein [Re: nuthinbutmopar] #3198052
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My Uncle Peter as well - at 42!. The family will still tell the story how the doctor's described it as his heart literally exploding.
Peter's little brother, my Uncle John died at 63 of virtually the same thing.

I'm 42 now and my brother is 45. I'm overweight and my brother is already having Liver issues. Males in our family are just not destined for long lives.

We also think we're cursed because four generations of males have been unable to reproduce.

Uncle Peter had the Mumps when he was younger and was sterile because of it.
Uncle John married wrong - probably died a virgin - and wound up adopting two Romanian children.
My brother simply doesn't want kids.
I was born with a hernia, and as a child during the operation for said hernia; they wound up messing up my insides. Took two subsequent operations just to give me nuts that don't work.

And the ultimate irony is that we've recently discovered long-lost family in America.... and his son is gay. laugh2

Some days, you just can't hit the ground with your hat.


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Re: John Ritter, Lucille Ball, Albert Einstein [Re: That AMC Guy] #3198064
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High blood pressure and other hereditary factors influence if you get it or not. It can also start out as a result of a birth defect that goes undetected.

Re: John Ritter, Lucille Ball, Albert Einstein [Re: Neil] #3198068
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Very tall height is also reported to be a contributing factor.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: John Ritter, Lucille Ball, Albert Einstein [Re: 360view] #3199047
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Some thoughts “Boggle the Mind”

“Vaccine” now brings up in the mind a hypodermic syringe and a needle.

But the first “vaccine” was a “scratch and rub”

The skin on your arm would be scratched enough to bleed and the puss of a Smallpox disease blister would be rubbed into the new skin scrape.

So that time I “wiped out” on my motorcycle on that downhill gravel road and got my first “road rash” that was a “who knows what” vaccination.

Think of all the bleeds from nicks and scrapes you have had working on equipment - those are vaccinations of a sort.

The joke:
No machine will run properly until at least a drop of blood in sacrifice falls upon it.
... has a new hidden meaning.

Your first vaccination maybe was when they cut your umbilical cord just after birth.

Someone on Moparts is “the most vaccinated member” but it is impossible to know who if you consider cuts and scrapes.




Re: John Ritter, Lucille Ball, Albert Einstein [Re: 360view] #3199140
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if the old "scratch and rub" deal works, i should be cured of everything that ails me, because every time i touch something i end up "leaking" that red stuff and getting rust, grease, and general dirt rubbed thoroughly into the "leaking" area. biggrin
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Re: John Ritter, Lucille Ball, Albert Einstein [Re: 360view] #3200129
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Originally Posted by 360view
Some thoughts “Boggle the Mind”

Your first vaccination maybe was when they cut your umbilical cord just after birth.

Someone on Moparts is “the most vaccinated member” but it is impossible to know who if you consider cuts and scrapes.



I believe the trip down the birth canal would be first.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: John Ritter, Lucille Ball, Albert Einstein [Re: jcc] #3200197
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I would not argue against that.

I would not argue against “Mom got sick in the roughly 9 months before birth.”

One other horrible situation -
Some pregnant Mothers rode in Fords or Chevys in the nine months before birth.

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Hereditary for me. Found I had a aortic aneurysm . Had to have mine repaired.

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I suffered an Aortic Dissection back in 2008 and lived to tell about it. I was very lucky and blessed. I now have a mechanical heart valve. I retired last year and am enjoying life as my valve ticks all day long (you can hear it).


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Originally Posted by 360view
I would not argue against that.


Which begs the question, are C section babies vs natural births less antibody prepared initially for life.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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A good friend's college roommate had some ongoing heart issues and was in the hospital. This was when he was in his late 20s or early 30s if I recall correctly. I'm not sure exactly what, but they were doing some sort of scan or test and literally saw his aorta rupture. They did emergency surgery and saved him. If he'd been anywhere else, he wouldn't have made it.


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