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Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #31987 11/10/06 10:43 PM 11/10/06 10:43 PM
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Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: DPelletier] #31988 11/11/06 05:13 AM 11/11/06 05:13 AM
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DD_lover OP member D Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 179 Los Angels, Calif.	HI. Yes. It looks like one is correct and one is wrong. I mean i could use it. But instead of it being smooth on top like it should. It has that round raised circle. But know i know what im lookign for. Everyone has been a big help. Thank you all.

Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: DD_lover] #31989 08/08/08 06:53 PM 08/08/08 06:53 PM
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daniel_depetro pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483...	This thread has helped me numerous times in the past couple years... 1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10) 1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23) 1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: daniel_depetro] #31990 08/16/08 11:23 AM 08/16/08 11:23 AM
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daniel_depetro pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483...	Sorry to bring up an old post but now I need some clearification and figured I might as well add it to this thread. OK this is a 1971 non HP 440 I just picked up. The chrome valve covers came with the non HP 1968 440 I also bought (pictured in the following post). The VC on the passenger side is what I believe to be a 1968-69 HP style cover. The VC on the driver side is what I believe to be a 1968-69 non HP style cover. From what I understand I can easily turn this one into a 1968-69 HP cover by removing the 'tabs'. Is this correct? 1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10) 1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23) 1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: daniel_depetro] #31991 08/16/08 11:25 AM 08/16/08 11:25 AM
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daniel_depetro pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483...	This is a 1968 non HP 440 I bought a couple months ago. Installed are the original valve covers for the engine. The engine was removed from a wagon and these covers originally looked just like the turqouise ones pictured a few posts above so I am guessing it was a C-body? I removed the brackets and it has the flexible wire holders, however it never had any tabs. It now looks like a 1968-69 HP cover but does not have the correct tabs to be a 1968-69 HP cover. I already removed the tabs off of this cover to make it a 1968-69 HP cover. 1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10) 1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23) 1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: daniel_depetro] #31992 08/16/08 11:26 AM 08/16/08 11:26 AM
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daniel_depetro pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483...	This is a 1977/78 400 I bought about a year ago. My father has a 1970 F440HP2 six pack engine he bought that was missing the original valve covers as it came with M/T aluminum ones. I wanted a set of aluminum covers for my 400 engine so I bought him the correct ones for his six pack engine as he was going to need them anyways. These were bought from a reputable source and are supposedly 1970 only HP covers. The thing that makes me nervous is the indent on the cover. They each have a different dent in them on the end from the 1968-69 covers. It is more squared off (like 90). You can barely see it just below the massive distributor on the front of the cover. Was this for A/C cars or for 1971+ cars? Are these the 1970 only HP covers? This is suppose to be a 1970 only HP cover. They each have a different dent in them on the end from the 1968-69 covers. It is more squared off (like 90). You can barely see it on the bottom side in the very back on the cover. Was this for A/C cars or for 1971+ cars? Is this a 1970 only HP cover? 1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10) 1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23) 1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: daniel_depetro] #31993 08/16/08 09:48 PM 08/16/08 09:48 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,271 A gulag near you.	Quote: Sorry to bring up an old post but now I need some clearification and figured I might as well add it to this thread. OK this is a 1971 non HP 440 I just picked up. The chrome valve covers came with the non HP 1968 440 I also bought (pictured in the following post). The VC on the passenger side is what I believe to be a 1968-69 HP style cover. The VC on the driver side is what I believe to be a 1968-69 non HP style cover. From what I understand I can easily turn this one into a 1968-69 HP cover by removing the 'tabs'. Is this correct? No you are not correct , the right side cover is 69 ONLY if it's a factory installed cover , 68 has a bracket welded on for heater hose retention , the left cover is 68-69 used in HP applications ONLY if it were a factory installed cover .

Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: daniel_depetro] #31994 08/16/08 09:53 PM 08/16/08 09:53 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,271 A gulag near you.	Quote: This is a 1977/78 400 I bought about a year ago. My father has a 1970 F440HP2 six pack engine he bought that was missing the original valve covers as it came with M/T aluminum ones. I wanted a set of aluminum covers for my 400 engine so I bought him the correct ones for his six pack engine as he was going to need them anyways. These were bought from a reputable source and are supposedly 1970 only HP covers. The thing that makes me nervous is the indent on the cover. They each have a different dent in them on the end from the 1968-69 covers. It is more squared off (like 90). You can barely see it just below the massive distributor on the front of the cover. Was this for A/C cars or for 1971+ cars? Are these the 1970 only HP covers? This is suppose to be a 1970 only HP cover. They each have a different dent in them on the end from the 1968-69 covers. It is more squared off (like 90). You can barely see it on the bottom side in the very back on the cover. Was this for A/C cars or for 1971+ cars? Is this a 1970 only HP cover? The drivers side cover is definitely a 1970 383/440 HP cover, except for C body HP applications. The right side cover is a 1971 HP and non HP cover . Last edited by Johnrr; 08/16/08 09:57 PM.

Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: JohnRR] #31995 08/17/08 12:00 AM 08/17/08 12:00 AM
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daniel_depetro pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483...	Shoot! I was afraid of that... So what makes it a C-body cover? What does a 1970 B-body/E-body HP valve cover look like? 1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10) 1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23) 1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: daniel_depetro] #31996 08/18/08 09:12 AM 08/18/08 09:12 AM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,271 A gulag near you.	Quote: Shoot! I was afraid of that... So what makes it a C-body cover? What does a 1970 B-body/E-body HP valve cover look like? The tabs for the spark plug wire , but I can't think of a C body model that would have chrome covers in 1969 ? I still think those are over the counter generic 1969 covers . The 1970 cover for the pass side has an indent on the end under the dist SIMILAR to the 68-69 cover , look on the first page , there are examples of it .

Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: JohnRR] #31997 08/18/08 05:33 PM 08/18/08 05:33 PM
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daniel_depetro pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483...	I do not doubt these are over the counter pieces, but they are definately Mopar (Hustle Stuff/Direct Connection) parts. They are identical to my painted ones in construction and if they were painted, nobody could tell the difference. They are baffled the same and everything. Personally I was just going to paint them... 1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10) 1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23) 1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: daniel_depetro] #31998 08/19/08 08:40 AM 08/19/08 08:40 AM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,271 A gulag near you.	Quote: I do not doubt these are over the counter pieces, but they are definately Mopar (Hustle Stuff/Direct Connection) parts. They are identical to my painted ones in construction and if they were painted, nobody could tell the difference. They are baffled the same and everything. Personally I was just going to paint them... When I said over the counter I meant over the dealer parts counter , not aftermarket .

Re: 70 440 valve covers help [Re: JohnRR] #1902289 08/30/15 06:52 AM 08/30/15 06:52 AM
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DD_lover OP member D Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 179 Los Angels, Calif.	wow. I remember posting this but dam its been 9 years. Where did the time go?/ I haven't gotten anything done....

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