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Crate hemi block #3192132
11/20/23 01:26 AM
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I bought this 472 a few years back and have been trying to find out what year it was made. Curiously, it has no casting date(s) nor any stamping(s) but it does have that the larger reinforced lifter bosses, std hemi engine mount pads and the typical casting number. Any idea what year this beast was made? Thanks in advance...wb

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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: blue_stocker] #3192166
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Looks like an early non-siamese block. Post a picture of the front around the oil pump. That will narrow down the year of the block.


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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: rickseeman] #3192202
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Zippy might be able to chime in on the stampings on the block ID pad or the numbers above the casting plants logo to give a date on the block.


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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: rickseeman] #3192215
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Looks similar to mine but mine is Siamesed bore block at 528". Mine is an early 2000's. First built by RBRE in 2007ish.


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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: rickseeman] #3192216
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Nothing like the later World block with the drilled and tapped area above the pump mount.

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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: blue_stocker] #3192228
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Yes, and the area is also not filled in so that makes the block pre 2006. I think the casting numbers above the Motor Casting logo and the stamping on the ID pad mean something. We just need some help decoding.


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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: rickseeman] #3192241
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The 472 crate motor came out in 1998 and that block is before 2006 so we are closing in.


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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: rickseeman] #3192243
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Originally Posted by rickseeman
The 472 crate motor came out in 1998 and that block is before 2006 so we are closing in.


I bought a 426 crate motor in the middle of '05 and the front of the block has that boss to run the external line, I've always wondered if I could modify it to look like and original ?


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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: JohnRR] #3192248
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I think it's solid so yes, I wish someone had a program to mill that out and make it look proper.


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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: rickseeman] #3192350
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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: B1duster] #3192397
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Zippy tried to get info on casting numbers and cast dates years ago and got nothing. So the best you can do is it's a MP water block

Re: Crate hemi block [Re: second 70] #3192420
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Anybody know the “power limit” for the water block?


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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: metallicareload] #3192497
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I would guess a lot. They have a lot of meat in the mains.


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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: blue_stocker] #3192561
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That block looks like and reminds me of the first "Mopar Mega block street Hemi block" I built from Glendora Dodge while I was still in SO CA. back in the mid to late 1990s shruggy
The cast in funny looking M was on it also up


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Re: Crate hemi block [Re: metallicareload] #3192596
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Originally Posted by metallicareload
Anybody know the “power limit” for the water block?


John Arruzza Hemi told me they're good to 1200. Here's the casting difference between the 2 blocks. Siamese has Mopar cast above the 2468330



As far as crate hemi's they are hit and miss. No way of knowing without checking them. Some people get lucky others are nightmares.

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This is my water block. It's easy to see the extra meat in the lifter galley.

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