First 2023 update on my old Challenger
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10/03/23 09:58 PM
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Haven't touched the car all year until a couple of days ago...
It's loads of fun trying to find parts and tools that are still in hiding somewhere after the extensive water damage the house had last year. I own two (2) oil pump priming tools and can't find either of them. They're probably right next to the throttle cable bracket that also disappeared; lucky that I stumbled across one from AR Engineering that I didn't remember having.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
[Re: Brad_Haak]
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10/03/23 10:05 PM
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Gonna use a Braswell drop-base air cleaner assembly; mocked up the hood to check clearance with no spacer installed
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
[Re: Brad_Haak]
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10/03/23 10:19 PM
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Car is up on jack stands now since I've been doing stuff that requires being under the car. I let it sit on the tires for too long and appear to have flat-spotted my new M&H front radial skinnies... grrrr
Even though I've been second-guessing my decision to have the T/A scoop modified for an additional 1-1/2" clearance, it may be growing on me.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
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10/04/23 09:33 AM
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CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
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10/04/23 09:39 AM
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Looking good, if your front tires aren't ancient I wouldn't worry about the flat spot. Once the tire warms up I bet it goes away just fine. If the tires are old you should replace them anyways though.
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
[Re: Bad340fish]
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10/04/23 10:48 AM
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Looking good, if your front tires aren't ancient I wouldn't worry about the flat spot. Once the tire warms up I bet it goes away just fine. If the tires are old you should replace them anyways though. No, not (that) old. I'm hoping this is a case where -- like you said -- the issue will go away when the tire(s) reach operating temp.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
[Re: AndyF]
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10/04/23 10:50 AM
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Engine looks ready to go! Don't have my checklist in front of me at the moment, but It's getting closer << OK, wrong color, but ya' get the idea >>I'm waiting for all the unexpected sh!t to pop up when it's finally running again... oil leaks (engine? trans? diff? take your pick) ... brakes failure... electrical issues... all the fun stuff As long as it's not trying to imitate the Exxon Valdez, the first place it needs to go is somewhere yet determined to get the front end aligned after having replaced just about everything but the LCAs, and even they got new bushings
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2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
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10/04/23 12:31 PM
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Looking good. I almost went with the same hood until I decided to build my Shaker for my Challenger.
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
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10/05/23 12:26 PM
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^^^ There is a solid 1"+ clearance above that air cleaner with the modified hood scoop. I wasn't sure the Victor heads and TF (or Victor) intake would be able to use a decently sized air cleaner and still have room under the standard T/A scoop, plus I wanted the option to try different spacers knowing how the engine responded to them on the dyno. Big ugly scoop means room for adequate air cleaner system and ability to run at least a 1" spacer, too.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
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10/05/23 12:58 PM
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^^^ There is a solid 1"+ clearance above that air cleaner with the modified hood scoop. I wasn't sure the Victor heads and TF (or Victor) intake would be able to use a decently sized air cleaner and still have room under the standard T/A scoop, plus I wanted the option to try different spacers knowing how the engine responded to them on the dyno. Big ugly scoop means room for adequate air cleaner system and ability to run at least a 1" spacer, too. BLOCK OFF the lower part of that scoop, the "good" air is 2" above the hood surface. That will also help cut down the drag since the opening is so large
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
[Re: HardcoreB]
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10/06/23 10:12 PM
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I’m digging that Barry Grant carb. After reading all your testing, I wound up buying one for myself.
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
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10/06/23 11:23 PM
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Thx; I figured BG has been out of business long enough that I can just say it stands for Brad's Garage now This was SUPPOSED to be the "It's running again!" post. Unfortunately, when we thought it was ready to fire up late this afternoon, we got slapped down by a couple of electrical issues and a coolant system leak. Probably won't get a chance to get back into the garage until Sunday, so now I'm the problems get resolved and actual fire-up happens before I gotta go back to work on Monday.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
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10/08/23 08:38 PM
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Can't get it to start and stay running. Effed with carbs, swapped plugs, messed with timing... not sure where timing is right now, since I can't put a light on it since it's not running. Pi$$er...
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2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First 2023 update on my old Challenger
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10/08/23 10:00 PM
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Mike Hynes and I are wondering if we wired the Crane HI-6 box differently than it was before. I gotta find the instructions and see if we jacked it up somewhere.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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