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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: Charger727] #3176290
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Originally Posted by Charger727

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-...er-landed-one-piece-pilot-ejected-2023-9

A US fighter-interceptor nicknamed the 'Cornfield Bomber' once miraculously landed in one piece in a farm field after its pilot bailed out


That was my first thought, if it had enough fuel it might have made it to Davy Jones' Locker.


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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: John_Kunkel] #3176349
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So, they can't shoot it down? It's not like it's a balloon and will not cause any harm to the populace when it crashes randomly, right?


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I think.they know where what's left of it is but do not want anyone else getting to it 1st.


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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: 340SIX] #3176441
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I saw a home video of the piolet ejecting and the aircraft having an in air explosion shortly after, then the crash and burn with a big black billow of smoke and a trail of smoke to the crash site, that was past several hills and a few miles from where the video was taken.

From the video, there was no doubt there was an explosion of the plane after the piolet ejected, and there was no doubt there was another explosion at the crash site. That video was from a cell phone taken from the ground.
The plane was reported as missing after the video appeared. Our government in action.

Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: 360view] #3176576
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It should be more widely known that a F-35B has too little room inside to put in new engines that are both much more fuel efficient and powerful.

A and C models apparently are not limited this way, but all 3 types are suffering over heating problems due to electrical needs of upgraded radars and computers.

There is a lot of talk about “un-maned robot controlled” navy ships.

It seems to me that the US Navy needs a 100 or so small un-maned flat top ships that a F-35B’s can land on if their mothership “Lightning Carrier” is on fire or sunk.

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This one cracked me up. had to pas it along.

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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: 360view] #3176670
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Originally Posted by 360view



It seems to me that the US Navy needs a 100 or so small un-maned flat top ships that a F-35B’s can land on if their mothership “Lightning Carrier” is on fire or sunk.


As a sailor I can tell you this, there is no way a ship large enough to do this function can function for long unmanned. The simple wear and tear of being at sea would see to that.

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sample quote

“Despite years of patches and upgrades, the F-35’s most combat-crucial computer systems continue to malfunction, including the Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS) maintenance and parts ordering network; and the data links that display, combine, and exchange target and threat information among fighters and intelligence sources,” the agency wrote.

“As in previous years, cybersecurity testing shows that many previously confirmed F-35 vulnerabilities have not been fixed, meaning that enemy hackers could potentially shut down the ALIS network, steal secret data from the network and onboard computers, and perhaps prevent the F-35 from flying or from accomplishing its missions,” it added.

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https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...-if-china-caused-the-missing-f-35-crash/

more likely some sort of over heating issue....

Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: 360view] #3176747
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So, what "they" are saying it that the F35s are not any better then the average new Ford truck?

Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: poorboy] #3176749
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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: 340SIX] #3176763
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I've got 7 years under my belt, in the USAF, as an aircraft mechanic, (crew chief) on the RF-4C Phantoms, and the T-37 Trainers.
Back in my day, these aircraft weren't no where electronically sophisticated, as they are now, in this modern day and age.
I can understand how, why, that F-35 continued to fly after the pilot ejected from it.
But, they aren't telling us why, the pilot ejected, in the first place.
Right now, that's been one big secret.



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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: hemi71x] #3176771
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My thoughts exactly.
The pilot ejected due to some major malfunction, but the the jet continues to fly unmanned?
Those two things just don't add up to me...

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yea... if you look on youtube you will find MANY accidents which led to the destruction of an F-35. Way too many.... sure none shot down in combat but seemingly dependable as a harbor freight floor jack.


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Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: 360view] #3176847
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One report of an eye witness now claims the F-35 was flying upside down (inverted) prior to impacting the ground.

In years past we had a post here on Moparts about whether the F-35 would stay “stealthy” to enemy radar for long if minature radar antennas in the noses of missiles could be redesigned successfully to use long wavelength, low frequency, radio transmissions.
One way to do this is to use “Fractal” shaped antennas.

A similar problem is faced by submarines, who must now hide from newly invented sensors in overhead satellites, or in “sea gliders” that can roam the deep oceans by up and down glides triggered by buoyancy of internal gas bladders.

Re: Marines lose F-35 figher [Re: Fat_Mike] #3176953
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Originally Posted by Fat_Mike
My thoughts exactly.
The pilot ejected due to some major malfunction, but the the jet continues to fly unmanned?
Those two things just don't add up to me...


In the case of the F-106 cited above, the force of ejection righted the out-of-control situation and the aircraft just flew on.


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Pilot is now quoted as “I lost control in the bad weather”

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So a cloudy day is now considered "bad weather"?

Not that I'm doubting the piolet lost control of the plane.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Johnson_(engineer)

AI is now the “flavor of the year” fad wise.

Should the most promising AI be “taught” every thing technical Kelly Johnson left behind,
then assign the AI to report:
“What potential flaws would Kelly Johnson suggest the F-35 has”

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According to the book "Skunk Works" the 15th rule is:
“Starve before doing business with the damned Navy.
They don't know what the hell they want and will drive you up a wall before they break either your heart or a more exposed part of your anatomy."

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lost military “stuff” in the past

https://www.popsci.com/technology/lost-military-f35-drones-nuclear-weapons/

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A plane called the Kettering Bug was built during World War I as an “aerial torpedo,” or a flying uncrewed bomb that would, in the fixed trench combat of the time, travel a set distance and then shed its wings to crash into an enemy position with explosive force. The war ended before the Bug could see action, but this predecessor of both drones and cruise missiles was tested as a secret weapon in the United States.

On October 4, 1918, the biplane bomb took off, and then flew off track. The US Army searched the area near its Dayton, Ohio launch site, asking the public if they had seen a missing plane. Several of the witnesses reported what appeared to be a plane with a drunk pilot, and the Army went along with those stories, saying the pilot had jumped out and was being treated. The plane, as an uncrewed weapon, had no human pilot on board. Rather than reveal the secret weapon, the Army let witnesses believe they had seen something other than the aerial torpedo. The Army found the wreckage of the Bug, recovered its reusable mechanical parts, and burned the wrecked fuselage on the spot.

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https://www.aol.com/news/f-35-911-call-ve-065243099.html

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In the 911 call, the dispatcher at first appears surprised by the caller: "I'm sorry — what happened?"

"We've got a pilot in the house, and I guess he landed in my backyard, and we're trying to see if we could get an ambulance to the house, please," the caller responds.

The pilot gets on the call a short time later and says he is 47 years old, that he ejected at around 2,000 feet after "an aircraft failure" and had some back pain.

"We have a military jet crash. I’m the pilot. We need to get rescue rolling. I’m not sure where the airplane is," the pilot tells the dispatcher. "It would have crash-landed somewhere. I ejected."

The pilot also asks whether a plane crash had been reported in the area.

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