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hemi oil pan ? #315548
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I installed a hemi oil pan last year on my 440 and I don't remember how much oil it took, I thought it was 6 qts. Anyway I just changed the oil and filter and I put in 5 qts. started the car shut it off and checked the oil, and its right on the full mark. I thought the hemi pans held 6 qts with the filter. How many qts. of oil should a 440 with a hemi pan hold with a filter change. Could my dip stick be wrong ? Do I need to change the dip stick and tube when using the hemi oil pan on a 440 ? I got the hemi oil pan from mancini how do I tell if the pan I got is the hemi pan,the hemi pan is suppose to hold 6 qts. of oil. also how do I tell if the oil dipstick is the correct one.

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Did you put oil in the filter? The dipstick is not different for the hemi pan on a big block.

I think Mancini sells an inexpensive hemi pan and it may not be the same and an original?

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I think Mancini sells an inexpensive hemi pan and it may not be the same and an original?




I'm almost positive Mancini sells the only "hemi"-style pan of which is patterned after the '70/'71.. The '66/'67 are different than the '68/'69 which in turn, are different than the '70/'71... Whew !!!!


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I think Mancini sells an inexpensive hemi pan and it may not be the same and an original?




I'm almost positive Mancini sells the only "hemi"-style pan of which is patterned after the '70/'71.. The '66/'67 are different than the '68/'69 which in turn, are different than the '70/'71... Whew !!!!




I just looked they have an MP hemi pan and their own label hemi pan , both have the same description , $26 price difference , both show 6qt .

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I think Mancini sells an inexpensive hemi pan and it may not be the same and an original?




I'm almost positive Mancini sells the only "hemi"-style pan of which is patterned after the '70/'71.. The '66/'67 are different than the '68/'69 which in turn, are different than the '70/'71... Whew !!!!




I am curious. What is the difference between the '66-'67 and the '68-'69 pans? I have read that the '66 Hemi pans were the standard 'B' pan but '67-'69 Hemi pans were the same.


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Did you put oil in the filter? The dipstick is not different for the hemi pan on a big block.

I think Mancini sells an inexpensive hemi pan and it may not be the same and an original?




No I didn't put oil in the filter. I have 5 qts in the motor now, I did run the motor shut in down and then checked the oil, and its right on the full mark. From what I understand the hemi pan holds 6 qts plus the filter,witch should be a total of 7qts. Also from what I understand no one makes a dipstick that will read correctly, so I have to make a new full mark on my dipstick. Is there anyone out there that had to do the same thing when they installed the hemi oil pan on a 440 ??

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I talked to the Mancini guys at MATS about their six quart "hemi" pan. I was told by the Mancini guy total oil capacity would be six quarts using the hemi pan. Not six in the pan and one in the filter, but six total

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" I have 5 qts in the motor now, I did run the motor shut in down and then checked the oil, and its right on the full mark. From what I understand the hemi pan holds 6 qts plus the filter,witch should be a total of 7qts."



So with the old oil pan and 5 qts. of oil the dipstick read "full"?? Now with hemi pan, 5 qts. of oil the dipstick still reads full. Is this correct?

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The Hemi pan is "supposed" to hold 6 quarts but the oil level is pretty high. I think 5 or 5 1/2 plus one for the filter is more realistic.

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I talked to the Mancini guys at MATS about their six quart "hemi" pan. I was told by the Mancini guy total oil capacity would be six quarts using the hemi pan. Not six in the pan and one in the filter, but six total


that should be easy to figure out just ask someone on here who has a 70 up hemi how much oil it holds.

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The Hemi pan is "supposed" to hold 6 quarts but the oil level is pretty high. I think 5 or 5 1/2 plus one for the filter is more realistic.




I agree. I put in 5 1/2

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so nobody has a 70 up hemi with original dip stick that can tell us how much oil it takes to fill it other than guess what it takes??????????

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I talked to the Mancini guys at MATS about their six quart "hemi" pan. I was told by the Mancini guy total oil capacity would be six quarts using the hemi pan. Not six in the pan and one in the filter, but six total




I would have to agree with this , I don't think the original pan was a 7qt total system , I have 2 original pans and they are the same depth as the repop , though I don't have a Mancini repop mine are MP , well at least one is , I think I got the other from Hoover's .

As far as the dipstick being off , what dipstick do you have 69 ? Also you need to let the motor sit for a while before checking the oil as it doesn't all fall directly back into the pan , especially with a mopar windage tray .

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so nobody has a 70 up hemi with original dip stick that can tell us how much oil it takes to fill it other than guess what it takes??????????




Why don't you just post the info if you have it instead of acting like a 12 yr old

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so nobody has a 70 up hemi with original dip stick that can tell us how much oil it takes to fill it other than guess what it takes??????????




Why don't you just post the info if you have it instead of acting like a 12 yr old


i don't know. i know what mancini said when i got my pan and was waiting to see what a real hemi guy says he uses so that leaves you out.don't you have a bicycle to play with little boy?

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just the answer I expected DB

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just the answer I expected DB



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A 70-71 Hemi/6 Pack pan and a 69 Hemi pan each hold 6 qts in the pan itself, which fills the pan to about 3/4 inch from top. I set each pan on the ground last year and measured both.

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With the pan that full would the rods real close to "splish splash" at the bottom of the throw?

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The Larger Hemi pickup will suck the pan dry, that is why the larger pans on Hemi.
I would agree on the 5 1/2 qts or 6 total quarts in the factory pans..
Since the original motors burned a quart of oil every 1500-2000 miles, they were normally not full anyway.

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With the pan that full would the rods real close to "splish splash" at the bottom of the throw?




that is a tad high , but that's a REST , once the engine is running there is alot of oil everywhere so the pan is never FULL while the engine is running .

at 5000 RPM a low deck 2 qts low will not have good oil pressure

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