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Re: Any Updates on Missing Titanic Submarine and Rescue ?
[Re: slantzilla]
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06/22/23 12:20 PM
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If the thing blew up/in I am going to guess it was hull fatigue from multiple dives without much testing before/after each one.
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Re: Any Updates on Missing Titanic Submarine and Rescue ?
[Re: Dart 500]
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06/22/23 01:56 PM
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Treating it like it was a tourist destination and profiting off of it was despicable anyhow.
Like school on Sundays. No class!
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Re: Any Updates on Missing Titanic Submarine and Rescue ?
[Re: GY3]
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06/22/23 08:18 PM
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Treating it like it was a tourist destination and profiting off of it was despicable anyhow.
Like school on Sundays. No class! That's why they called it "scientific research". Tourist diving the site is illegal.
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Re: Any Updates on Missing Titanic Submarine and Rescue ?
[Re: not_a_charger]
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06/23/23 09:16 AM
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"Now there is one wreck laying next to the other wreck, for the same damn reason." That end quote there hit hard. Hubris.
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Re: Any Updates on Missing Titanic Submarine and Rescue ?
[Re: fullonmopar]
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06/23/23 02:42 PM
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I just heard some sort of expert on the radio down under (excuse the Pun). He stated that the reported banging every half hour would only be heard if the capsule was made of steel but with a combination of Carbon Fibre and Titanium you may as well bang your head on a wooden log (his words) also they are starting to discover Carbon Fibre can deteriate and develop stress cracks under water especially going through pressure cycles. Also the main observation window was not designed for such depths, this was highlighted by the safety officer and because of his insistance he was sacked.
. The banging noises were simply from other ships in the area, but the doomed sub did have titanium end caps so they indeed had something to bag on if that was the case. The wikipedia page is an eye opener https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OceanGate#Titan
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Re: Any Updates on Missing Titanic Submarine and Rescue ?
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06/23/23 04:04 PM
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I just heard some sort of expert on the radio down under (excuse the Pun). He stated that the reported banging every half hour would only be heard if the capsule was made of steel but with a combination of Carbon Fibre and Titanium you may as well bang your head on a wooden log (his words) also they are starting to discover Carbon Fibre can deteriate and develop stress cracks under water especially going through pressure cycles. Also the main observation window was not designed for such depths, this was highlighted by the safety officer and because of his insistance he was sacked.
. The banging noises were simply from other ships in the area, but the doomed sub did have titanium end caps so they indeed had something to bag on if that was the case. The wikipedia page is an eye opener https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OceanGate#Titan Yes the negligence displayed here is astounding. Worse than i imagined. I expect this to result in plenty of litigation, finger pointing, fines, new international regulations, criminal charges and certainly bankruptcy. The U.S Navy detected the implosion when it happened on Sunday and didn't publicly say anything. They probably didn't want to expose their Top Secret listening capabilities. https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-detected-titan-sub-implosion-days-ago-6844cb12https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65994405
Last edited by GomangoCuda; 06/23/23 04:12 PM.
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Re: Any Updates on Missing Titanic Submarine and Rescue ?
[Re: moparmike1]
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06/23/23 04:50 PM
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The U.S Navy detected the implosion when it happened on Sunday and didn't publicly say anything. They probably didn't want to expose their Top Secret listening capabilities. This technology was Top Secret 40 years ago. Not only do the Russians and Chinese know about this technology, they have the technology themselves. The public learned about this 30 years ago. Who are they trying to kid? The head of the US Navy owes the world an explanation.
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Re: Any Updates on Missing Titanic Submarine and Rescue ?
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06/23/23 05:28 PM
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When I heard about the debris field yesterday I thought "no way". If the craft imploded the sound would have been detected by the various agencies around the world that are always listening/monitoring our oceans. Anyone that saw the "Red October" movie or read Clancy's book knows the technology has existed for decades. Someone would have reported the sound, right? Now on Friday morning the Navy admits they heard the breaking up of the sub on Monday. [censored]? What took them so long? Why did they allow all those resources to be deployed and why toy with the hopes of the families? Have we really come to a point where common sense and decency is completely absent from our Government agencies? Common sense or ignorance? Know of a system existence is one thing, advertising it's abilities is another. Probably had to get approvals to admit anything publicly and being a weekend I am sure those people were out of pocket. The site incident commander knew quickly though.
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Re: Any Updates on Missing Titanic Submarine and Rescue ?
[Re: resqguy]
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06/23/23 05:37 PM
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The U.S Navy detected the implosion when it happened on Sunday and didn't publicly say anything. They probably didn't want to expose their Top Secret listening capabilities. This technology was Top Secret 40 years ago. Not only do the Russians and Chinese know about this technology, they have the technology themselves. The public learned about this 30 years ago. Who are they trying to kid? The head of the US Navy owes the world an explanation. You really think we are still using that 40 year old technology? If you believe that, well it explains your indignant comments
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Re: Any Updates on Missing Titanic Submarine and Rescue ?
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06/23/23 05:58 PM
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I just heard some sort of expert on the radio down under (excuse the Pun). He stated that the reported banging every half hour would only be heard if the capsule was made of steel but with a combination of Carbon Fibre and Titanium you may as well bang your head on a wooden log (his words) also they are starting to discover Carbon Fibre can deteriate and develop stress cracks under water especially going through pressure cycles. Also the main observation window was not designed for such depths, this was highlighted by the safety officer and because of his insistance he was sacked.
. The banging noises were simply from other ships in the area, but the doomed sub did have titanium end caps so they indeed had something to bag on if that was the case. The wikipedia page is an eye opener https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OceanGate#Titan Yes the negligence displayed here is astounding. Worse than i imagined. I expect this to result in plenty of litigation, finger pointing, fines, new international regulations, criminal charges and certainly bankruptcy. The U.S Navy detected the implosion when it happened on Sunday and didn't publicly say anything. They probably didn't want to expose their Top Secret listening capabilities. https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-detected-titan-sub-implosion-days-ago-6844cb12https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65994405 While they picked up the sound that lead them to believe it imploded or exploded several days ago, I'd also think they would want to confirm a debris field to support such an event and they wanted to notify all the family members before making a public announcement. While they had the sound evidence, they needed a physical verification. That seems to be normal protocol. Frankly, why are we all concerned about a handful of people so rich they could pay the equivalent of a house to go on a tourist trip while a ship of 700 sunk off the Greek coast killing hundreds fleeing the political oppression of their authoritarian governments.
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