Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction
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Yeah, thinking back, I did pretty well in my youth with an upper-12s SB '57 Chevy around '70-'72. Had no bottom-end torque & 4.88s, so it would leave on the other guy - and if he buzzed his tires he was immediate toast. In a few years, the cars got a lot quicker; by about '80, allegedly & sometimes credibly capable of 10s; by then I'd quit that stuff before something bad happened. This was a early mid 80's car. Ran low 10's with a SB in it. Hook in a sandbox.
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction
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Agree - the Challenger in Detroit I remember was the red one that was actually fast. Can't recall the guy's name, but the car was about half-Pro-Stock... This car I think was more about the story, never heard of it until the PR barrage started a while back. The sentiment is more about the value than the history, I suppose, but it does make sense to "strike while the iron's hot". One might wonder if the hype wasn't started by Someone in Dodge's PR department... Steve Lisk
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction
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I think I'd have to have a PDR guy pop some of the dings out of the side of it. It's black and those stand out too much for me to live with. I agree, and the problem is that if you do a repaint, you are probably decreasing the value. Takes a certain person to pony up for this one.
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction
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There is no provenance to this car besides it’s a one family owned hemi car. The well put together video a few years ago of friends & family doesn’t make it an actual legend. Chris Jacobs was hilarious on the auction opening promo Friday stating the black ghost is the most important Mopar car in history.
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction
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There is no provenance to this car besides it’s a one family owned hemi car. The well put together video a few years ago of friends & family doesn’t make it an actual legend. Chris Jacobs was hilarious on the auction opening promo Friday stating the black ghost is the most important Mopar car in history. If you’re right, it will sell for about $150k. While I wouldn’t pay a premium for this car, others will, let’s see.
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction
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There is no provenance to this car besides it’s a one family owned hemi car. The well put together video a few years ago of friends & family doesn’t make it an actual legend. Chris Jacobs was hilarious on the auction opening promo Friday stating the black ghost is the most important Mopar car in history. If you’re right, it will sell for about $150k. While I wouldn’t pay a premium for this car, others will, let’s see. I'm thinking as high 1/2M. Triple black, one owner, HEMI 4spd 70 Challenger, unmolested, Original driveline, with all the doc's paperwork alone is an impossible find. throw in the provenance, be it true or not and it = 🤑 I'd buy it right now at 150. Will be interesting to see what it hammers for
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction
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Glad to see others questioning this cars "legendary" status. I have a hard time believing a relatively stock hemi challenger was such a "legend" street racing around Detroit back then.
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction
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The story reads well, but definitely fiction.
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction
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It seemdd to me that when the story came out a while back that all he ever did was stoplight race.
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction
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The story reads well, but definitely fiction. Yeah, but the rich guy that buys it will have a cool story to tell his rich buddies at the country club. It'll probably be so fast he'll be afraid to drive it. In all seriousness I hope it goes to a car guy.
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction
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The car would be a low 13 second car not a high 13 second car, that said, the potential buyers are eating up the story like candy and there is already chatter about it bringing seven figures. Folklore isn't cheap these days!
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