Re: Tinted undercoating ?
[Re: Stanton]
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i am a PPG certified autobody tech / painter. ALL car manufacturers dip their cars in a vat of epoxy prime these days. this is referred to as Ecoat. they paint the exposed panels with color and over spray gets in some areas on the bottom of the car. the areas not covered get left as is and driven. some arears get rusproofing sprayed in some areas to further protect them. this is how the old mopars were painted back in the day. all major paint manufacturers make tintable sealers. you could look into that. they also make tintable bedliner. https://www.amazon.com/Raptor-Tintable-Urethane-Spray-Liters/dp/B01CKE7M7M/SEM makes spray bombs that are close matchers to factory Ecoat primers. i use this all of the time when working on inner panels of cars for corrosion protection. https://www.semproducts.com/product/ez-coattmin my OPINION. if you are looking for maximum durability. i would get a sample of the Ecoat you want to match. take it to a paint store and get a eye match mix of urethane single stage enamel paint made. $$$ but it's durable. you could cut costs and use regular enamel paint. a LOT of people just spray the exterior color on the bottom and leave it that way. there are large amount of under hood color mixes listed in paint code year color catalogs also. you could check these color for a match also. i myself make a mix of epoxy primer that's close to original color and spray away and call it a day. the old cars rusted vbecause they were driven almosy every day and usually not taken care of. a restored car won't have this problem.
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Re: Tinted undercoating ?
[Re: Mr T2U]
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04/01/23 09:34 AM
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Thanks for the reply but I'm specifically interested in info about tintable undercoating/bedliner - and just how well it can be matched to the body color.
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Re: Tinted undercoating ?
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04/02/23 07:23 AM
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Thanks for the reply but I'm specifically interested in info about tintable undercoating/bedliner - and just how well it can be matched to the body color. You will have to see what the manufacturer specifies. For example, when my buddy was selling Speedliner they reccomended PPG paint matched to the vehicle. I forget how much per gallon you mixed in but it didn't take much. I tried other paint on some side projects of my own and the color didn't keep for long. Since you are wanting to coat the underside, UV fade will be minimized.
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Re: Tinted undercoating ?
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04/10/23 01:06 PM
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that looks really good ! a question i have been wanting to ask about bed liner. what kind of [minimal ?] prep is required ? are the spray bombs [rustoelum] any good ? [i know this brand only comes in black, but that will work for me] and if so, just how tough does it set up ? TIA as always.
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Re: Tinted undercoating ?
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04/11/23 07:52 PM
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You have gotten some good advice here. A couple things to remember though: If a jobber is mixing you some paint to add to raptor liner, it should be mixed without binder and balancer. You want the toners only.
Also, raptor is a great product but can become brittle over time. I have seen it crack before. Not that our cars are going to be subjected to the same kind of abuse that a truck bed would be under, but it helps to have all the information that you can get these days.
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Re: Tinted undercoating ?
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04/11/23 11:12 PM
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Color match is good. Especially for where I used it. It's the tintable Raptor. That looks really good. Question - did you spray the Raptor liner over the plastic body plugs? If not, were the plugs able to go back in the holes after the coating was applied?
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Re: Tinted undercoating ?
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04/15/23 06:51 AM
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what kind of [minimal ?] prep is required ? are the spray bombs [rustoelum] any good ? [i know this brand only comes in black, but that will work for me] and if so, just how tough does it set up ?
I just with 80 grit or cup brush on a grinder. Cover any bare metal self etching primer. It takes ALOT of material to build any kind of thickness. Texturing is a learned thing. You can experiment to see what you like.
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Re: Tinted undercoating ?
[Re: redraptor]
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04/16/23 04:57 PM
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thank you. the reason i ask is, i want to cover the exposed interior tin on my humpback with a gray [industrial type color] tinted bedliner. the seats i will be using are the second row leather bucket seats that were in my 95 caravan. [bus] they are "distressed", [but not ripped] and fit the theme of this build, plus fit my fabbed floor pan and transmission tunnel well, even before i get the mounts made. i intend to have minimal gray colored leather on the door posts as well as matching the color on the roll cage padding where needed. also a minimal cover above the windshield and door openings, as well as a few areas in the box. the rest of the interior will be gray beadliner. the doors will have bare aluminum door panels. i was thinking around using a 60 grit, but i'm glad a wire wheel will work as well. thanks again for your response and suggestions.
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