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Reverse Indicator Lamp 1969 road runner #3131284
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I'm working on my 1969 4 speed road runner. When I got the car the reverse indicator lamp was missing from the dash, and it had no reverse lamp wiring harness that plugs into the switch on the transmission. I bought a new harness and a reverse indicator lamp for the dash. I've studied the wiring diagrams in the service manual but cannot locate the dash lamp on any drawings. The lamp I bought has a plain black wire with no connector on the end. My question: where do you connect this wire? Thanks for any help.

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It goes to the "Z" terminal location on the bulkhead connector. Your new harness should have had a female connector with it.


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Re: Reverse Indicator Lamp 1969 road runner [Re: 70gtx440dana] #3131434
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Originally Posted by 70gtx440dana
It goes to the "Z" terminal location on the bulkhead connector. Your new harness should have had a female connector with it.

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Re: Reverse Indicator Lamp 1969 road runner [Re: Air Grabbler] #3131438
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Here's what I have from my '69 4-speed GTX that I think would be the same? Also included is the wiring harness comparison for an automatic and 4-speed.

And yes terminal "Z" as 70gtx440dana stated up

Mike

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^^^ That's good info right there !

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A12 - Any pics of the factory connection for the tach harness at the back of the fuse box. I cannot find this info in any harness diagrams either. I have been told it is connected to the accessory fuse.

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Re: Reverse Indicator Lamp 1969 road runner [Re: 70gtx440dana] #3131477
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I'll do a search of my photos as my GTX also has a tach.

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Originally Posted by 70gtx440dana
A12 - Any pics of the factory connection for the tach harness at the back of the fuse box. I cannot find this info in any harness diagrams either. I have been told it is connected to the accessory fuse.



Do you know the color of the tach wire? Would it happen to be dark blue (dk blue as shown in the '69 B-body Plymouth/Dodge wiring diagram? If so then I hope this answers your question?

Mike

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Tach wire is commonly gray to coil - reference signal and Blue from fuse block to tach 12 volt feed..

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Originally Posted by NITROUSN
Tach wire is commonly gray to coil - reference signal and Blue from fuse block to tach 12 volt feed..


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A12 - Any pics of the factory connection for the tach harness at the back of the fuse box. I cannot find this info in any harness diagrams either. I have been told it is connected to the accessory fuse.


Thanks NITROUSN, the blue wire to the fuse was the question up

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Thanks everyone! I will be tackling this tomorrow morning and am confident that I'll be successful thanks to your help. I'll report back tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Air Grabbler
Thanks everyone! I will be tackling this tomorrow morning and am confident that I'll be successful thanks to your help. I'll report back tomorrow.


Remember that the ground is it being bolted to the cluster which is bolted to the body , many resto paint places the factory never painted and this can cause issues with grounds.


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Originally Posted by A12
Originally Posted by 70gtx440dana
A12 - Any pics of the factory connection for the tach harness at the back of the fuse box. I cannot find this info in any harness diagrams either. I have been told it is connected to the accessory fuse.



Do you know the color of the tach wire? Would it happen to be dark blue (dk blue as shown in the '69 B-body Plymouth/Dodge wiring diagram? If so then I hope this answers your question?

Mike


Mike, Thanks a million ...yes the tach wire is blue and your photo confirms the location @ the accessory fuse!!!! I have two 69 wiring diagrams (Dodge and Plymouth) and they do not show this blue tach wire. Your diagrams pictured above are the best I have seen. Any chance you can email them? If so, send me a PM.

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I got everything functioning, thanks to your help. My car now has a reverse indicator lamp and functioning back-up lights for the first time in probably 30-40 years (I've only owned it for a couple months and am sorting out dozens of little issues). It's the small victories that keep us going, ha ha.

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Originally Posted by Air Grabbler
I got everything functioning, thanks to your help. My car now has a reverse indicator lamp and functioning back-up lights for the first time in probably 30-40 years (I've only owned it for a couple months and am sorting out dozens of little issues). It's the small victories that keep us going, ha ha.


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Originally Posted by 70gtx440dana
A12 - Any pics of the factory connection for the tach harness at the back of the fuse box. I cannot find this info in any harness diagrams either. I have been told it is connected to the accessory fuse.


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