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Re: Fram oil filter problem
[Re: cheapstreetdustr]
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05/09/09 09:24 PM
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like "Wix" or "Purelator"
Yeah I've been using Wix filters for about 8 years
I guess... better and cheaper
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Re: Fram oil filter problem
[Re: Mr. T]
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05/09/09 09:28 PM
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I noticed today that my local Wally World is now selling Mopar oil filters.What is your opinion on the Mopar and Motarcraft filters compared to the Wix?
I just don't understand why some people are so difficult to convince. Wix (NAPA), Baldwin, Purolator, and the hard to find Hastings are all excellent. I may have left out a couple. Fram and AC and ANY rebox brand are third rate. Years ago our Wix rep went out and bought several brands of filters, including Fram and AC and cut them open. I was astounded at how "chincy" the AC's appeared inside.
I wouldn't use a Fram orange filter if you paid me.
I'd guess that anything Wallyworld sells ain't that great. How much is YOUR engine worth?
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Re: Fram oil filter problem
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05/09/09 09:55 PM
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Re: Fram oil filter problem
[Re: Mr. T]
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05/09/09 11:00 PM
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If you are at Wallyworld trying to save money on filters,(I can think of better ways to save money) the Motorcraft FL1A is a decent filter. Sure there are better choices for more money but I wouldn't be afraid to use an FL1A in a pinch.
On the other hand I think the Mopar brand filter is strictly a lowest bidder piece.
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Re: Fram oil filter problem
[Re: GomangoCuda]
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05/09/09 11:33 PM
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The Motorcraft filter is a PurOlater,they make it for Motorcraft.
The AC filter that looks like crap is made by Champion labs,and they make most of the oil change station filters along with Lee,STP some Mopar and others.I don't think they make the Mopar filter that wally mart sells,but if it has a plastic tube inside,it's a champion Labs filter.The wally mart filters made a few years ago were real good filters.
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Re: Fram oil filter problem
[Re: Chris2581]
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05/10/09 01:19 AM
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Cut open a FRAM and you will never use another one  I used to work at wal mart years ago changin oil and we would get bored and cut open filter and NEVER saw any as crappy as the FRAM, the one way valve was a complete joke! It is a piece of cardboard and many times I took them off cars and you could shake them and pices of the filter both media and valve would just fall out. Several auto manufactures have TSBs about after market filters saying not to use them, Hyundai is one. Cummins had them pay for a huge pile of motors a few years back that they screwed up, I saw the pile in Nashville at the cummins joint there. When I worked at the Dodge, Hyundai and Honda dealers I saw cars come in with what sounded like sever piston slap after an oil change, replaced filters and no noise. I never saw these problems from any other filters unless it was a rebadged FRAM (penzoil is the one I can think of now). Even the Wal-mart brand look like a Rolls compared to a Yugo.
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Re: Fram oil filter problem
[Re: HotRodDave]
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05/10/09 01:33 AM
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Made in Mexico garbage......I think it has to do w/the tequilia.  I work on cars out of my house and NEVER use fram oil filters and warn people againtsed using them period.
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Re: Fram oil filter problem
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05/10/09 01:38 AM
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Wix and Mobil 1 ......nothing else.
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Re: Fram oil filter problem
[Re: HotRodDave]
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05/10/09 04:27 AM
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Cummins had them pay for a huge pile of motors a few years back that they screwed up, I saw the pile in Nashville at the cummins joint there.
JUST curious ... if the Fram filters are junk(I am not doubting your allegation) ... WHY didn't Cummins sue Fram over this?
And if regular-people are losing motors over this failure of product ...where are the class-action law suits ?
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Re: Fram oil filter problem
[Re: sixpackgut]
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05/10/09 11:19 AM
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Cummins won a lwasuit, FRAM did not just volanteer to pay for all those motors.
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Re: Fram oil filter problem
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05/10/09 12:15 PM
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I have cut open a few oil filters and I cant see why anyone would even put there name on it. fram was the worst, why would a company let there name go down the toilet. if you company is known for making air and oil filters, why make the cheapest piles of crap and sell them on such a large scale. I saw a guy have two HP1's fail on his Hemi race motor. 
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Re: Fram oil filter problem
[Re: cheapstreetdustr]
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05/10/09 12:35 PM
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like "Wix" or "Purelator"
yep why anyone would use a fram for anything is beyond me 
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Re: Fram oil filter problem
[Re: rebel]
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05/10/09 04:09 PM
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you guys must be looking into the cheap domestic filters. i've been using the HP6 for a few years now, everyone we've cut open & they look like works of art inside. strong construction, great filtration etc... but then it might be the assembly market you have in the US as the HP6's i'm using are made in Australia.
I won't use those either, not because they may or may not be good, but because of how bad the REST of the line is. It may not be much of a "political statement" but I simply won't do business with companies that screw most of the people on the one end while selling one or two good products.
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I looks like a trip to nappa is in short order , I have a case of short wix for my smallblock , I wonder if one will fit 
