Re: How fast do you need to be to be competitive in S/ST?
[Re: dustyhof]
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a 10.90 is a 10.90 at any speed..
ted siepel won Suger Gas at vegas national event with speed in the 120s
cut a light and run 10.90...
Tony
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Re: How fast do you need to be to be competitive in S/ST?
[Re: dustyhof]
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160 In Super Street you will see everything from small tire cars to full tube chassis cars. Cars running from 119 to 155+. Seriously there is not a magic number. Wish there was cause I would be all over that number like white on rice. I am choosing to run my car in S/ST at 160 so I can chase most all the time. I also may try S/C so I can be the slow car. For me it is simply a matter of being able to be on one end or the other the majority of the time , just a comfort level for me really. Kind of why I like to run the car all out at brackets as I am the faster car most of the time.
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Re: How fast do you need to be to be competitive in S/ST?
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MOST Super street cars TODAY are Capable of low 9's and 150 mph easy And the cars can go red at at track .. Knife to gun fight .. Most have a .15 or .20 package or less to turn on the win light Can you run it with a car that goes 10.85 @ 128 sure ,can you win ..sure But its a long,long,long weekend to take most often two hits at the tree for t/trials and one (if you are really good(lucky)more ) You would have to leave on Weds to be there Thursday to get thru Tech ..Sit till Friday If it rains ..Oh boy, they might send you to a mall parking lot to wait Been there done that tooo many times Divionals would not be as bad of a beating Long tow to most of them for you except Brainerd Heck , give it try ..racing is racing
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: How fast do you need to be to be competitive in S/ST?
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IF your car will go red on a Pro tree and run 10:90X, you will be competitive.
The faster cars are harder for you to judge at the stripe, but slower cars are not easy for them to judge either.
If your car runs the number and you treed your opponent you will win, no matter what your speed is.
Racers tend to be like lemmings. One guy runs 160 and the rest think they have to.
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Re: How fast do you need to be to be competitive in S/ST?
[Re: slantzilla]
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Give it a try and report back to us !
Have fun too, thats all that matters
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: How fast do you need to be to be competitive in S/ST?
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05/06/09 10:02 PM
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Super classes are usually dominated by light tube chassis cars that have massive tires and are throttle stopped to death. They leave go out 150' pause and then MPH you to death...Most are deadly consistent with .00 trees and dead on the number plus a thousandth or two...Anyone can have a good day but you will not win alot with a car that is on 10" tires and ladder bars against these type of cars..
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Re: How fast do you need to be to be competitive in S/ST?
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If you can get your car to run 10.90 on the throttle stop and cut a light on a .500 pro tree, go to a divisional race and give it a shot. You might get your head handed to you or you might do well and have a great time. I waffled for a long time about racing an NMCA event. I finally towed down to Memphis for the world finals in '06 and went to the semi-finals in open comp. (lost by .01) Went to their Chicago event in '07 and went 3 rounds before I ran into a problem and couldn't make the next round. Went to Memphis again in '07 and beat the reigning NMCA champ, a couple top ten guys, Don Bowles (of Jack Rousch racing), the new NMCA champ in the semi's, and finally lost to the former NMCA champ Jamie Rickman in the final round. Point is none of those NMCA guys ever heard of me before I took a few shots. Now they ALL know who I am. Who's to say you won't have similar results............go for it!
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Re: How fast do you need to be to be competitive in S/ST?
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Well if someone is moving 150' before going on the stop something is wrong or they aint trying to kill much. For instance the Hemi in the Cuda we were on the stop at .10, then back to WOT at around 4.1+-, the new engine on at .10 off at about 5.4+-. As for light, S/ST has a minimum of 2800lbs, my car is 2860, light is S/G and even more so S/C.
like I said before there is no perfect speed or competitve speed. You have to be abke to hit the tree and run the number period. most as stated set up for an 88 or so, but not all. If you know your car and combination you know where you can let off and run .90 on the nose. FWIW I know the Veags national event has been won by a car using a mechanical stop that couold barely run the number at 119ish. It's debateable who has the advantage, the fast or slow car, just like any other bracket racing. I find running my car all out I do much better chasing being the faster car and I see 25+ differences all the time.
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