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Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: Brad_Haak] #3099155
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Originally Posted by Brad_Haak
Originally Posted by Jeremiah


It has a battery hold down, two throttle springs and I tossed the Yosemite Sam floor mats when we got the car.

Are they supposed to be checking for something else?

Safety belts
Scatter shield (4-speed)
Roll bar or cage (bar >= 10.00; cage <10.00)
Driveshaft loop
Driver's jacket
... and the list gets longer as the car gets faster

Or are you running at an "outlaw" track that doesn't really bother w/ tech inspection per the NHRA/IHRA rules?


Nice build but I have been racing a long time seen lots of stuff. Just because you race on the street or an outlaw track, don't skip the safety stuff. One thing about trying to put that much HP on the street is you are usually very close to spinning the tires at a lot of MPH. Bad things can happen. And TV show or not those street racers have had a lot of wrecks the past few years both on and off the track, couple got killed. So be safe. And if done correctly a good roll cage will stiffen the car and make it go faster, done that myself several times.

Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: Jeremiah] #3099209
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I've heard RPM and heavy bobweight kills the LY rods. I don't think I'm making enough power to hurt them but I also don't think they are safe long term much above 6000 rpm.

Originally Posted by Jeremiah
Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
What are the performance targets for the car?

On spray and N/A?



N/A - snappin necks
On spray - cashin checks!


laugh2 That is such a grudge racer answer.

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Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: CSK] #3099275
12/03/22 05:59 PM
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Impressive numbers, must be one of the reasons why Charlie’s
Car runs so good. I should probably crawl out from under my rock more often.


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Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: ZIPPY] #3099279
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Agreed!



Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: jwb123] #3099281
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Originally Posted by jwb123
Originally Posted by Brad_Haak
Originally Posted by Jeremiah


It has a battery hold down, two throttle springs and I tossed the Yosemite Sam floor mats when we got the car.

Are they supposed to be checking for something else?

Safety belts
Scatter shield (4-speed)
Roll bar or cage (bar >= 10.00; cage <10.00)
Driveshaft loop
Driver's jacket
... and the list gets longer as the car gets faster

Or are you running at an "outlaw" track that doesn't really bother w/ tech inspection per the NHRA/IHRA rules?


Nice build but I have been racing a long time seen lots of stuff. Just because you race on the street or an outlaw track, don't skip the safety stuff. One thing about trying to put that much HP on the street is you are usually very close to spinning the tires at a lot of MPH. Bad things can happen. And TV show or not those street racers have had a lot of wrecks the past few years both on and off the track, couple got killed. So be safe. And if done correctly a good roll cage will stiffen the car and make it go faster, done that myself several times.


Gentlemen....11.50 tops! Looking for 88mph in the 1/8th



Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: Blusmbl] #3099282
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Originally Posted by Blusmbl
I've heard RPM and heavy bobweight kills the LY rods. I don't think I'm making enough power to hurt them but I also don't think they are safe long term much above 6000 rpm.

Originally Posted by Jeremiah
Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
What are the performance targets for the car?

On spray and N/A?



N/A - snappin necks
On spray - cashin checks!


laugh2 That is such a grudge racer answer.


Oh man...I dont even have any tattoos. One of my biggest pet peeves is the outlaw gangster racer thing. More like working 80 hours a week supporting a family and your car hobby. Flat bill hat and a hoodie doesn"t mean ****




Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: jwb123] #3099285
12/03/22 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jwb123
Originally Posted by Brad_Haak
Originally Posted by Jeremiah


It has a battery hold down, two throttle springs and I tossed the Yosemite Sam floor mats when we got the car.

Are they supposed to be checking for something else?

Safety belts
Scatter shield (4-speed)
Roll bar or cage (bar >= 10.00; cage <10.00)
Driveshaft loop
Driver's jacket
... and the list gets longer as the car gets faster

Or are you running at an "outlaw" track that doesn't really bother w/ tech inspection per the NHRA/IHRA rules?


Nice build but I have been racing a long time seen lots of stuff. Just because you race on the street or an outlaw track, don't skip the safety stuff. One thing about trying to put that much HP on the street is you are usually very close to spinning the tires at a lot of MPH. Bad things can happen. And TV show or not those street racers have had a lot of wrecks the past few years both on and off the track, couple got killed. So be safe. And if done correctly a good roll cage will stiffen the car and make it go faster, done that myself several times.


You make several good points here. I will take them into consideration as we move forward (that is my serious answer).



Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: Jeremiah] #3100814
12/09/22 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeremiah
Thanls to Woody B for setting me up with this M1

Never measured an M1 nor an SD intake but, at a glance there won't be a big difference (maybe 10-15 tops) I just don't see a big increase in mcs and the runner is still limited to Std. port height. Based on the images, when Wilson modded AndyF's M1 they welded externally on the runners etc. That intake was surprisingly good but then the MW intakes with less runner turn where a gain again over that. Just speaking from a bang per buck perspective. That being a low-deck...I KNOW OF a 'prototype' manifold that would be interesting for dyno comparisons assuming your heads were opened to MW whistling

Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: HardcoreB] #3101011
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Thank you for the feedback. I intend to measure the volume of each intake.

I probably won't though : D

Would measuring height and runner CSA be valuable data?

Is this bad time to talk about a hood swap?

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Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: Jeremiah] #3101013
12/10/22 01:15 AM
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Also stumbled upon some TTI step headers. Sorry red Charger! I already feel guilty lol.

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Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: Jeremiah] #3101112
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You better paint that hood a ratty faded blue! Cool car, great build. Hope you have a ton of fun with it.

Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: BigBlockGTS] #3101764
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I have three or four colors of flat blue in my trim paint cabinet. You read my mind on that aspect.


Part of me wants to paint it organisol. Any thoughts on that?

I am looking around for an old s&w roll bar kit as a winter upgrade too.

Before I move forward I need to either harvest the TTI's from my Charger or pry open my (very flat) wallet and get a set on order.

Winter upgrade list:

Hood swap
Intake swap
Possibly a cam timing change
Upgrade safety equipment
Strange S60/cal tracs/28x11.50 DOT bias M/T's


After this combo gets wrung out I'll retire the car for a resto project and focus on my good cars.


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Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: Jeremiah] #3101970
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roll cage needed when car gets "upside down". biggrin [i couldn't help it............. whistling panic devil]
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Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: moparx] #3102157
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Easier to weld up the exhaust that way. I wish they would fix that issue...which is about 5 years old lol.



Re: street/strip 511" build with dyno results [Re: Jeremiah] #3102316
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many years ago, around here we all said : "it's impolite to show God your mufflers......."
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