Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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I would imagine so, the live feed is a huge part of these deals.
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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I haven't seen any info on it on their channel ...Thanks anyway I'll keep an eye out for it. I see it's now on the live upcoming stream on Motortrend TV....Hope the streaming better than last years Be safe Gent's it's going to be a warm one.
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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Update on the Hemi Coupe: After we aborted the dyno testing session, I couldn't get the schedule to work out for all parties involved to test again before drag week. My aim had been to test the eight carb intake versus the dual quad intake. But that won't happen before drag week so I decided to just go ahead and swap on the dual quad and test it at the drag strip. Plus I bought a different clutch controller, it's called bank shift Billy. It controls the clutch release through the hydraulic line using an electronic control that you access via Bluetooth on your phone. So you can adjust the grab point and the release rate in extremely small, precise increments The valve needs to get spliced into the line between the clutch master cylinder and the clutch slave cylinder.
So I got the dual quad setup installed. The throttle linkage arm on the firewall is pretty much centered in the car so that it could work between The two rows of carburetors. So I started working on a Rube Goldberg type jack shaft setup to operate the throttle arms on the left side of the four barrels. But that wasn't working out so I came up with a simpler idea which seems to be working. Next I had to figure out what to do for air filters/air scoops. I have some vintage ones that I really like but they're going to be difficult in time-consuming to get mounted on there, and I couldn't figure out how to get filters into them. So I bought a pair of new ones from speedway. I got them mounted on there so they will work for drag week, but they're not my favorite as far as looks go.
Then when I went to install the bang shift Billy clutch controller I discovered that the fittings I bought to splice it into the line where the wrong ones. So I didn't get that installed yet. I also installed a diaper on it and had to make up custom bracket to prevent it from interfering with the steering shaft, but that wasn't too big of a deal. The diaper covers up the sight glass that I have on the side of the oil pan so it's not a simple glance to check the oil level anymore. But it's not too hard to unstrap one corner and drop it down enough to see the site glass. At least if the motor is not piping hot.
I changed the oil and filter, and the lube in the transmission and rear end, fixed the handbrake, did a bunch of miscellaneous little repairs and cleaned it up. I was hoping to get up to brainerd for a test night last Wednesday, but I wasn't ready. So yesterday we went to Rock falls. I was suited up, strapped in, three cars from the burnout box when it started raining. At first just a little bit. But then it poured. Eventually they called the race and I didn't get to make a pass. So this morning we went to Grove Creek which is the first half of a drag strip, and I made one pass.
The trunk munky is too busy to help so I recruited my son Cam to come along. He's pretty smart with technical stuff so he was able to get the GoPro all set up and adjusted the frames per second that it was filming in so that now it will actually record the readings of the air fuel ratio gauges. Previously the GoPro would not record them they just showed up as a flashing light. We also mounted a GoPro under the car to get a good view of what the suspension does on launch.
I used my best guess to set the clutch tamer which is the old clutch release mechanism. I launched it with the pedal on the floor and the two-step set at 5,000 RPM. The rear tires hopped a bit upon launch and the shift light came on almost instantly. I grabbed second, but the shift light stayed on, so I went for third, finally the shift light went off. I was thinking I had tire spin, but in hindsight I think it was clutch slippage and I had to grab point on the clutch tamer set too low. I did manage to get it into fourth gear before the end of the track, and went 6.51 at 111.
But some liquid sprayed on the windshield. I wasn't too worried about it because that's happened before when a little bit of water leaks out of the overflow tank or something. But when I got back to the pits, Cameron noticed right away that the radiator overflow can had a mixture of oil and water oozing out of it through the weep hole on the top.
After it cooled off a little bit, I pulled down the corner of the diaper to look at the sight glass on the oil pan and there was no oil showing. So we pushed it into the trailer and came home. I have it in the shop, getting started on trying to figure out what's wrong. Hopefully it's nothing that I can't get fixed promptly. I'm definitely not throwing in the towel at this point.
Now I'm taking a quick lunch break, And hopefully I'll have it pinned down sometime this afternoon.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/boeexFms.jpg[/img]31 Plymouth Coupe, 392 Hemi, T56 magnum RS23J71 RS27J77 RP23J71 RO23J71 WM21J8A I don't regret the things I've done. I only regret the things I didn't do. "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. ~ Plato"
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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Dangit Joel, good luck getting it figured out. See you in St. Louis!
My pushrods should be here Tuesday. The car is ready other than that. Might possibly squeeze in a test and tune Friday night but we will see.
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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Leak down test revealed the problem. Time to pull the right hand cylinder head and start looking around here to see if I still have a gasket somewhere.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/boeexFms.jpg[/img]31 Plymouth Coupe, 392 Hemi, T56 magnum RS23J71 RS27J77 RP23J71 RO23J71 WM21J8A I don't regret the things I've done. I only regret the things I didn't do. "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. ~ Plato"
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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Oh no, it's down to the wire!!
On the bright side it looks like you couldn't ask for much easier of a head gasket swap, it seems to be so convenient to work on the motor of a fenderless car!
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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Its getting close now....Pretty much anyone who is going needs to loading there stuff in the trailer and car this week.....Joel, you gonna make it?
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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My pushrods are supposed to arrive today. I have inventoried my crap that I bring and have most of my ducks in a row. I hope to install the pushrods tonight and get to go drive it a little bit. Ideally my Dad and I take it to test and tune Friday night before we leave Saturday. I have new tires, new suspension settings, new valvetrain. I hope I can figure out how well that works before Monday morning in competition.
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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Its getting close now....Pretty much anyone who is going needs to loading there stuff in the trailer and car this week.....Joel, you gonna make it? We NEED to leave by Saturday morning to make it to St.Louis in time for Tech Sunday. Our plan is to leave Friday morning, and head to Cordova, and test Friday night. If everything goes OK, we will head to St. Louis Saturday morning, and take it easy the rest of the day. Going to try to be in the tech line as early as we can. If we stay at the track Saturday morning, that will not be a problem. Hopefully Joel remembers to bring a helmet this year...
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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Well the new head gasket showed up yesterday. But it's not going to work. I have to use copper head gaskets because of the notch in the bore to clear the intake valve. Off the shelf gaskets do not have the needed notch. So I had my gaskets made up by Clark Copper head gaskets to fit. But they are out at least two weeks on gaskets right now. So I ordered an SCE Titan gasket from summit. The only one they had in stock in my bore size. What I didn't know is that it has a built-in fire ring. And that fire ring is not compatible with the wire o-rings in my block. Plus it is in the way of the notch. I spent a couple hours grinding on this gasket trying to make it fit but then I ended up giving up realizing it was not going to seal. The old copper head gasket leaked combustion, and it leaked oil into the water, but it did not blow out. So I cleaned it up, annealed it with a torch, got it nice and flat. I checked it all over with a micrometer and there is no thin spots. So I doused it in copper coat and installed it. My son Cam milled the head flat. So I'm hoping with the restored gasket and the head being flat that it holds. I got the head torqued down, but that's as far as I got by bedtime last night. So today I need to finish putting it back together, then I'm going to put the exhaust system on and drive it around on the street some today to see how it does.
Wish me luck, I need it!
[img]http://i.imgur.com/boeexFms.jpg[/img]31 Plymouth Coupe, 392 Hemi, T56 magnum RS23J71 RS27J77 RP23J71 RO23J71 WM21J8A I don't regret the things I've done. I only regret the things I didn't do. "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. ~ Plato"
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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4.060 bore, 0.042 thick. I could use the next size thicker as well since we took .005 off the head.
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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My pushrods arrived yesterday. I was zapped at the end of the day but I drug myself out there about 7:30 and got everything installed. Got it warmed up and all seems good to go. The new allegedly more gentle but larger cam profile has tighter lash and the valvetrain is way more quiet than I am used to which is nice.
My boy and I plan to wash it and put some miles on it this evening.
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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My pushrods arrived yesterday. I was zapped at the end of the day but I drug myself out there about 7:30 and got everything installed. Got it warmed up and all seems good to go. The new allegedly more gentle but larger cam profile has tighter lash and the valvetrain is way more quiet than I am used to which is nice.
My boy and I plan to wash it and put some miles on it this evening. I want to switch my Hemi cam to a tighter lash for Drag Week, how tight is your new one?
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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.014 for intake and exhaust compared to .024 and .027 for the old cam. This cam is a "Low Shock" grind from Comp. That is the lobe family they developed for whatever that 11,000RPM LS that EFI University built a year or two ago. I'm hoping to keep making power a little over 7000, the old cam was tapped out through the traps.
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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4.060 bore, 0.042 thick. I could use the next size thicker as well since we took .005 off the head. I checked, and all that's in stock at the shop is for 331 Hemi's at the moment....
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Re: Drag Week 2022 Who's in?
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My boy and I got the car out for a 25ish mile drive. Everything seems pretty good, my new radiator and shroud combo isn't working as good as I hoped but its not bad, its just not better. Maybe the 35GPM water pump isn't enough? I would have to go remote to go with more flow but for now this is livable.
I am happy with how the car drove and everything I saw on the data log from the drive so I am going to pass on testing Friday night.
I will be moving to 20W50 VR1. These lifters that pressure feed the rollers move ALOT of oil. I am down about 10-20PSI hot.
I love this blue because the car hasn't been washed since April, its dusty and has slimy hand prints all over it. But it photographs like its clean.
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