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Re: 572 Hemi 1x4500 Vanke DP, VS. A&A crossram [Re: Dragula] #3068201
08/15/22 03:11 PM
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It'll help, but not enough to be worthwhile. If you intend to just do cruise-ins and drive the car around...go for it. I'm sure it'll drive good on the street.
Just my 2 cents, not trying to talk you out of it if that's what you want to do. I feel like your car would run better w/ a smaller manifold, but not THAT small.


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'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: 572 Hemi 1x4500 Vanke DP, VS. A&A crossram [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3068203
08/15/22 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
It'll help, but not enough to be worthwhile. If you intend to just do cruise-ins and drive the car around...go for it. I'm sure it'll drive good on the street.
Just my 2 cents, not trying to talk you out of it if that's what you want to do. I feel like your car would run better w/ a smaller manifold, but not THAT small.


No. Its a good discussion....We talk wedges so much on here, its nice to talk Hemis once in a while. You thinking the Barton or the -3? The only reason I never went with the Barton was really the non-removable center plate and the weight really. We had a 4150 version on a 484 Hemi, and it ran like a scolded monkey....It was basically a street car and went 10.26 carrying the wheels to 2nd gear...I figured the Barton would be too small for 600 cubes.

And I have run a tunnel ram on my previous Hemi, just not one this big......

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Last edited by Dragula; 08/15/22 03:42 PM.

'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: 572 Hemi 1x4500 Vanke DP, VS. A&A crossram [Re: Dragula] #3068211
08/15/22 03:48 PM
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I think the 4500 Barton manifold would run better on your combo. I'm assuming they make one w/ the correct bolt arrangement to fit your heads?
When I tested the Barton and the big -4 Indy on my car, the difference down low was surprising. The Indy -4 screamed up top, but was almost a full tenth slower to the 60'. With a looser converter and the ability to turn more RPM, it would run well NA. My combo just isn't suited for high RPM.
The only reason I currently have the big -4 on my car is b/c of the nitrous.

The smaller 426-3 matches the Barton's lowend power, but is really lacking up top. The only reason to use the 426-3 is if you have hood clearance issues b/c it is a good bit shorter.
The Barton is way heavier, but it makes up for it.

Overall height...............Weight.
Barton...7 & 9/16" .........35 lbs
Indy 426-3...6.5"............19 lbs plus 3 lbs for the valley plate
Indy 426-4...8.25"...........22 lbs plus 3 lbs for the valley plate

Pic is the Barton on the left, the Indy 426-4 on the right

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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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