Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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Next ask the same question about oil....Then converters, this can be fun And carburetor builders... and cylinder head porters... and...
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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FWIW #1 - ATI trans fluid was developed with Driven. I don't know if what Driven offers are the same or their own blends.
FWIW #2 - I've used Redline Racing Type F synthetic with very good results, based upon the positive comments made by the people who have worked on my trans.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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This is the winner of the day!!!! Well unless you want to use the clear tractor stuff that is
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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Cheap type F hear. If i were to run enough to have heat issues, i would opt for synthetic, thinking being there is an extra 50 to 100 degrees before oil breakdown?
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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Cheap type F hear. If i were to run enough to have heat issues, i would opt for synthetic, thinking being there is an extra 50 to 100 degrees before oil breakdown? Your correct, 325Fon petroleum based oils and 525 F on most synthetics, a little more than 100 F
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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It amazes me the after 40-50 years many of our members are out there weekly beating on their cars and people are still trying to find a āmagic fluidā for their transmissions. Most of use have ran Dextron or type F in every build we race with zero wear issues but guys still arenāt satisfied. If you want to see heat jacket race a 600 HP plus combo with a powerglide with a brake and a 6000 stall converter. But go ahead an keep looking for something we have race tested for way to many years. Lol. Good luck.
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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It amazes me the after 40-50 years many of our members are out there weekly beating on their cars and people are still trying to find a āmagic fluidā for their transmissions. Most of use have ran Dextron or type F in every build we race with zero wear issues but guys still arenāt satisfied. If you want to see heat jacket race a 600 HP plus combo with a powerglide with a brake and a 6000 stall converter. But go ahead an keep looking for something we have race tested for way to many years. Lol. Good luck.
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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I have been using type " F " in my 904s for over 35 years as per my trans builders recommendation . I have had very few problems any I did have had nothing to do with the fluid . My local Advance Auto Parts didn't even stock type " F " and had to order it in when I charged my fluid this past spring. All they could get was Fram brand its been good I am sure its made by somebody else with their name on it .
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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I run type F in 727s and glides forever until it got hard to find and expensive. I got tired of calling parts stores trying to find it and having them say Type F? What does that go in?!?!? So I decided to find something that I could grab off the shelf at Walmart, and for 4 years now been using Valvoline MaxLife Multi-Vehicle Full Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid from Walmart that comes in the red gallon jugs. In a glide that 60 fts 1.19 and a 904 that 60 fts 1.30 with no problems.... Honestly, a properly built trans isn't very picky about what is in it IMO. EDIT: My fluid opinions only apply to NA applications where you are not building boost or trying to make Americas List.......
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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Donāt know if itās been mentioned in this thread, but back in the 80ās people were (still are) buying B&M āTrick Shiftā for $8 a quart (back then!) and itās just Type F dyed blue. I fell for it once. I have no idea what you're talking about...
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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Donāt know if itās been mentioned in this thread, but back in the 80ās people were (still are) buying B&M āTrick Shiftā for $8 a quart (back then!) and itās just Type F dyed blue. I fell for it once. I mentioned it in my answer. People were buying that snake oil in the 70's as well. Probably 50 years and they still sell it.
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Re: ATF favorite type brand , does it matter ?
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I've always run Type F. No particular brand preference, just whatever I can find at the parts store when I need it. No issues w/ anything fluid related in a 3800 lb street driven car that runs 8s...w/ a 727. My trans/converter builder is local to me and is an ex super stock racer. He and his son ran 2 NHRA SS class cars up until 7 or 8 years ago I believe. He's been doing this a LONG time...he's one to listen to in my opinion. He told me years ago to run 1 quart of a synthetic Dexron V fluid for added lubricity and then fill the rest w/ Type F. This was after seeing some wear on one or more thrust washers if I recall correctly. He tells his customers NOT to run the JD Hygard fluid in their cars. If they need the stall tightened up, take it out and let him adjust it. He said the lubrication properties of it just aren't that good. I didn't ask him to go into any detail, that's just what he told me when I asked about using that fluid. He said it's fine to use as a test to see if tighter is faster, but not to use it long term.
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