First MoPig update in months
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06/19/22 04:51 PM
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The old car hasn't been touched for a while, but I'm trying to make progress again on it.
Today saw the front suspension reassembly completed -- mostly -- and the front wheels back on the car. The front end rebuild got QA1 tubular upper control arms, QA1 adjustable strut rods, Bergman Auto Craft LCA pins & Delrin LCA bushings, new Moog lower ball joint assemblies plus inner & outer tie rod ends. The "mostly" comment is it looks like I need a new idler arm, too. After that gets swapped out, the alignment is gonna need a major adjustment.
Need new front brake hard lines, also... I completely forgot one side was damaged during disassembling of the front end before the frame repairs were done, and the other side was having problems getting it to thread into the hose to the caliper today.
Another thanks to Mike Hynes for putting a cattle prod to my butt to get back into the garage.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First MoPig update in months
[Re: dvw]
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06/19/22 08:41 PM
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looking good . Be interested how those Delrin bushes hold up
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Re: First MoPig update in months
[Re: BloFish]
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06/20/22 08:05 AM
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Looks nice!
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Re: First MoPig update in months
[Re: Brad_Haak]
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06/20/22 09:13 AM
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If I was going to do anything w/ the front brakes, it would be to switch to the aftermarket calipers (and rotors?) that AndyF recommended to save some weight. At this point I'm not making any changes that deviate from basic reassembly. Thx
Oh, I did confirm that I have .860" torsion bars now. I don't recall if those would have been /6 or 318 bars originally, but they're not what were on the car when I bought it.
Last edited by Brad_Haak; 06/20/22 09:17 AM.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First MoPig update in months
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07/02/22 10:53 AM
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New brake lines and Pitman arm are here. Plan is to get back into the garage tomorrow, so maybe I'll have an update Sunday night or on Monday.
Part of the problem with doing a little every day is the car is packed into the garage with a bunch of other stuff because repairs to water damage in the house from a couple months ago haven't been completed. It takes 30+ minutes just to move enough stuff out of the garage to make room to work on the car, then there's the time needed to put it all back afterwards. It's a major PITA...
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First MoPig update in months
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07/02/22 11:42 AM
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If you move back to Oregon you can share shop space with me. I won't even charge you rent.
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Re: First MoPig update in months
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07/02/22 12:38 PM
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--------------------------------------------- I'm thankful right now that most of the water damage to the garage ceiling has been repaired.
Last edited by Brad_Haak; 07/02/22 12:41 PM.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First MoPig update in months
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07/02/22 12:45 PM
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Personally, I don't see much difference between Andy's setup and mine...
Last edited by Brad_Haak; 07/02/22 12:52 PM.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First MoPig update in months
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07/02/22 12:48 PM
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Doesn't everybody's driveway look like this when they're working on their cars?
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First MoPig update in months
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07/02/22 04:13 PM
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Surely you're not letting that Scatty sit outside? I feel for ya.
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Re: First MoPig update in months
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07/03/22 09:20 PM
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Nothing about this car ever "just goes back together"; everything needs to be worked on in one way or another.
Front suspension is all together and steering is also. Hard lines are replaced, so I'm hoping nothing else about the brakes needs attention, other than new fluid and bleeding the system.
I think there's something different between the original upper control arms and the QA1 tubular arms, in addition to the geometry improvement they claim. I had my old UCA bumpers trimmed shorter to free up sime extension travel per feedback from John Calvert. With the same bumpers and the QA1 arms, the front suspension is completely topped out and the arms still have about a 3/8" air gap before touching the bumpers. I put in some taller bumpers that compress some at full extraction, but won't know anything else until the car is back together and I can check static ride height and available travel from that position.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First MoPig update in months
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07/03/22 09:28 PM
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Unexpected air gap at full extension
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First MoPig update in months
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07/03/22 09:37 PM
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Unless QA1 has changed the R Series Stocker Star front shocks since I purchased mine years ago, they're too bleepin short for B/E bodies if installed as directed. I had to change the bushings to allow mounting the shocks lower to artificially lengthen them. This is something I figured out before the car came off the road the last time, but I was reminded of it today putting the shocks back on.
I don't know why the image is loading sideways, since it appears correctly on my phone...
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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Re: First MoPig update in months
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07/03/22 09:44 PM
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Sadie, our adopted Weimaraner, is fitting nicely into the role of shop dog. She's not bothered by noises like bench grinders and circular saws, is happy to flop on the cool concrete floor, and can even find a comfortable position next to my old 8.75 housing and previous fuel tank.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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