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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: JERICOGTX] #3056747
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I'm still partial to the older Weld Alumastar 2.0 two piece rims. I'd love to have a set to go on my cuda, but man they're stupid expensive.

Doug...so glad you caught this early and didn't have a mishap that messed up that beautiful car!


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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: Whompin_Wedge] #3057293
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Years ago, I broke the center out of a five spoke wheel, wrecked my car, and darn near killed me. Use a wheel designed for racing. These period correct events, that specifically say, you can't use a modern race wheel irritate me.

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Originally Posted by farmboy
Years ago, I broke the center out of a five spoke wheel, wrecked my car, and darn near killed me. Use a wheel designed for racing. These period correct events, that specifically say, you can't use a modern race wheel irritate me.


Yeah, but those cars are slow! grin


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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: GY3] #3057361
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I'm torn on what to do. Will it be something close rear only? Or 4 new wheels? Not sure. Certainly the wheel selected will be a currently produced wheel. For the time being the Welds will work. The 2nd question is will a 12" wheel fit? I'd really like to know what the actual section width of a M/T 10.5Wx31 measures on a 12" rim.
Doug

Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: dvw] #3057365
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I noticed a few years ago that my Weld draglites ( 15x10 ) were starting to have an oval shape by the lug holes and thats with 5/8 studs that I regularly checked for torque they were however pretty old. I broke 1/2 inch studs years ago and they were only a few years old.. it wasn't pretty and did a lot of damage to my 1/4 panel I switched to 5/8 studs right afterwards. I now have Holeshot wheels on the rear and Weld Aluma Stars that I bought from a friend on the front , they weren't cheap but I bought the two for the price of one new. I really like the look. The Holeshot rear wheels are pretty close in looks to the Alumastars and again they aren't cheap but were custom made for my offset , width and stud size. I bought a pair of Raceline wheels for the front before buying the Weld Alumastars as soon as the arrived I sent them back as the wheels and the boxes they came in both said " Made in China " and they looked cheap.

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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: Cab_Burge] #3057369
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by BloFish
Or some old school Cragars.
Polish Super Tricks, maybe work up
Not the heavy chrome steel rim SS with the cast pot metal centers tsk twocents


I switch between polished Super Tricks, polished Welds depending on the event. I run E/T mags on the street. Glad you caught it before something bad happened.


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as long as you look good doing it!

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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: BloFish] #3057370
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bogart makes new appearing Super ticks

https://bogartracingwheels.com/fly-series/


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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: bigdad] #3057419
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ET3 makes custom old style wheels.
i had them make a set for my "endless project" in a 15x15, with a 4" backspace. it took them roughly three weeks.
very nice wheels indeed, but pricey at $1100.00. eek
i am happy with them, however, as to me they are worth every penny, and are made here ! [only drawback was they were made about five years ago, so who knows what the price would be today.]
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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: moparx] #3057421
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Holeshot R3s were a little less than a grand a pair for 15x10 4 1/2 inch back spacing , drilled for 5/8 studs... big selection and easy to deal with.

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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: 11secdart] #3057480
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My 29.5x11.5 W measures 15 1/4 carcass width on 12in wide Draglites like yours, they fit in my wheel wells with the tubs moved in 3in. on my 67 Bbody it’s snug but clears everything. Doug
I should add these are Hoosier’s.

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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: Rodenteliminator] #3057676
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Bogarts new ( old ) wheels

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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3057964
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Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
I'm still partial to the older Weld Alumastar 2.0 two piece rims. I'd love to have a set to go on my cuda, but man they're stupid expensive.

Doug...so glad you caught this early and didn't have a mishap that messed up that beautiful car!


I like the Magnum 2.0's which is what I put on my car.


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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: dvw] #3057965
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Originally Posted by dvw
I'm torn on what to do. Will it be something close rear only? Or 4 new wheels? Not sure. Certainly the wheel selected will be a currently produced wheel. For the time being the Welds will work. The 2nd question is will a 12" wheel fit? I'd really like to know what the actual section width of a M/T 10.5Wx31 measures on a 12" rim.
Doug


I run 29.5x10.5W's on a 12" wheel when not running drag radials . If I remember correctly there are slightly narrower than my drag radials when mounted. Drag radials are on now and measure just over 14-1/2" at the sidewalls. The 10.5W's are 14" with tubes.


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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: 6PKRTSE] #3058140
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Originally Posted by 6PKRTSE
Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
I'm still partial to the older Weld Alumastar 2.0 two piece rims. I'd love to have a set to go on my cuda, but man they're stupid expensive.

Doug...so glad you caught this early and didn't have a mishap that messed up that beautiful car!


I like the Magnum 2.0's which is what I put on my car.

Those also look awesome! A friend has them on one of his grand nationals.


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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3058223
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Probaby even better that I caught it. We ran Ubly Dragway this weekend. It shook the tires so hard on the 1st hit Saturday I thought it broke. We addressed that by tightening the rear shock rebound 6 clicks. Went from 14psi to 12psi in the slicks. The result was in the attached picture. Throughout our event we were able to make test runs anytime. So we continued with front shock adjustments. Also put smaller pump cams and squirters in the carbs. The results were excellent. Car caried the front further every time. My theory was it held the pump shot for a longer period of time. With less initial fuel at the hit. I struggled at the tree. This tree is slower than average for sure. The last pass I bumped in deeper. I'm sure it would've been another 5.64 run. This was the first weekend for a pair of merge collectors that were laying around as well. The car carried the front in the picture should to just before the 60 ft clocks. Then settled down smooth. Going to try and test at Milan before Dragway 42 in two weeks. I'm a little puzzled at passes #2,6,9. I lifted on pass #3. That's a calculated ET. Made its quickest 1/8 pass ever 5.648
Doug

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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: dvw] #3058227
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im confused now.....is this a heads up car whistling or a bracket car ??? shruggy

Outstanding As Usual .....must be the highly polished rims gliding through the air easier grin


....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....
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It either runs dial-in or NMCA N/SS index. Most of the dial-in stuff is against S/S and Stockers in either GLSSA or Buckeye Stock Super Stock. Normally we run 1/4 mile. This track is pretty short for quick cars. Thats why this weekend was 1/8. I'm foot braking with no starting line chip, no air shift per N/SS rules against trans brake S/S And NHRA stockers. Pretty competitive. Some real good NHRA guys. This track has a VERY SLOW tree. I should've been bumping in on all the runs. Then I misjudged the stripe and gave up the stripe 1st rd Sunday by .004. In N/SS it will run A/FX (9.00 ) or AA/FX (9.25) index depending on weather and how good the track is.
Doug

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Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: dvw] #3058495
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Originally Posted by dvw
It either runs dial-in or NMCA N/SS index. Most of the dial-in stuff is against S/S and Stockers in either GLSSA or Buckeye Stock Super Stock. Normally we run 1/4 mile. This track is pretty short for quick cars. Thats why this weekend was 1/8. I'm foot braking with no starting line chip, no air shift per N/SS rules against trans brake S/S And NHRA stockers. Pretty competitive. Some real good NHRA guys. This track has a VERY SLOW tree. I should've been bumping in on all the runs. Then I misjudged the stripe and gave up the stripe 1st rd Sunday by .004. In N/SS it will run A/FX (9.00 ) or AA/FX (9.25) index depending on weather and how good the track is.
Doug



Thank you for the explanation, but you not getting it (I know what you race in )....Im just saying this car is Bad A$$ thats all. Its getting faster and faster, and you always seem to do it so sanitary !! Car is immaculate and i have seen it in person. Not many cars look better in person than pictures, but this is one of those cars.
Great Job up

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....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....
Re: Inspect your Racecar. It could save you [Re: n20mstr] #3058510
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My wife thinks I'm dense at times. And she's correct. Thanks for the comments. We just keep making baby steps. This year most everything tried has worked. And as we both know that is seldom the case. Looking forward to seeing the Dart when it's finished.
Doug

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