1969 GTX quarter panel emblem locations: Lynch Rd vs others
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Does anyone have, in their vast expanse of documentation, dated factory assembly drawings or physical measurements which might lead one to surmise '69 GTXs might have possibly had the quarter panel emblems in different locations based on ....perhaps the plant, the build date, or some combination of the two?
Mine was a September 1968 build, and comparing measurements shown on FBBO and so forth, appears to have the emblems installed in the typical 1968 location, which is noticeably closer to the character line than the generally accepted (raised) location most '69s appear to have.
I've replaced both quarter panels recently and planned to duplicate what the car originally had, but would like to collect whatever info on the topic possible before punching the holes in the new metal.
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Re: 1969 GTX quarter panel emblem locations
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Found a vehicle here that appears to have the noticeably lower emblem placement, and sent a PM to the owner. Hoping to round up more info on this. Thx
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First pic. Have to get them the right size.
Best way I saw to gauge fro t to back is to jamb dumb end of tape into the leading edge of the T. Then go to door jamb edge. Who knows if they have been worked though or what the factory did. 12.5 on drivers sode, 12.75 on pass.
69 Lynch rd car, original ca body. Been repainted. SPD of Dec 5th 68
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I’m not happy with these as I took them one handed and it looked to include the tape and reference points better. Also no idea why they show up upside down or sideways. Some I took are too big and need resized.
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I might be able to retake some tomorrow and do a better job of writing down the measurements. This is what I could do on the fly.
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I happen to need the location and size of the holes for the pentastar. I can see what looks to be the mud they put over them. It’s been years since I had one off to see.
Did the alignment tab go to the front? Appears mine had a spot there. Probably be worth drilling it out since I bet a glue wouldn’t last. Going to take some balls to do this, so anybody have a fender to check? I can’t see the backside of mine. Thought I might get lucky and could break the filler out from behind.
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Thank you. I will flip the pics later.
A quick look, and it does appear your car is like mine and also has the emblems installed in what is usually accepted as the 1968 location/slightly lower than most '69s.
Will dig further when I can get into it.
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Thank you Mike Yours visibly appears to have the slightly higher installed location. Measurements appreciated to verify, of course. Have not collected enough samples yet, to act like I know what I am talking about, other than how my car appears to have been built. I collected a couple more yesterday. The trend I am observing so far is: So far, all the 69s I have been able to verify as Lynch Rd. builds have the emblem installed in what seems to be commonly accepted as the measured 1968 location. This is only a small handful of vehicles so far, but the build dates have ranged from mid-September 1968 to late September 1969, and all those (except mine which I've replaced alot of metal on) were low mileage and for the most part unmolested. The '68 usually had the emblem installed 2&3/8 to 2&1/2 above the character line (depending on measuring method, whether center of the tiny curve or the peak of the line). My '69 and the few others from Lynch Rd I have checked appear the same. In contrast, so far, the vehicles from plants *other than* Lynch Rd. have the emblem installed higher off the character line, approx 3&1/4" above it depending on exact method. This seems to be the more commonly accepted 1969 location. Research is ongoing and I'd invite anyone who has a vehicle to post a picture, including '68 models. I guess it is probably barely noticeable to most folks, but having owned the car a few decades and admittedly being a bit of a freak, these are the rabbit holes of the hobby. Fun stuff. I started verifying mine vs what is posted on various sites, and realized something was different about mine + other certain vehicles. Apologize if this is common knowledge and a stupid thread, I had never heard of it previously.
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Not to go OT but what color is your GTX? (Looks like it might be Y4 Spanish Gold or at least on my monitor?) He has a nice thread going on it, in the member's projects section. There are a few cool '69 GTX threads there. Well worth a look as that area of the board sadly gets very little traffic. He posted just enough tag to see it was a Lynch Rd build so that info came in handy.
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Not to go OT but what color is your GTX? (Looks like it might be Y4 Spanish Gold or at least on my monitor?) Y4 I find it has significant appearance depending on the light. Very olive looking while inside, gets much more yellow in bright sun.
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What size wheels and tires are on the yellow car? I’m thinking about a second set to swap back and forth with my oem 14s. I’d like to keep things tucked inside the rear quarters, but go to bigger wheels. Don’t think I can handle seeing rock chips on this car.
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[Sorry I'll start another thread on the GTX trim clips. Back to the GTX quarter panel emblem location"
The R6 Red GTX is a Lynch Road car with a May 05, '69 SPD.
The T5? with the closeup is a St. Louis plant car, don't know the SPD? but should be in '69 with a 260xxx VIN
The last T5 car is a Lynch Road car with a Jan 28, '69 SPD.
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The St. Louis GTX emblem looks higher than the two Lynch Road cars to me???? Thanks for the honest opinion. I do believe it is higher. Should be 3.25 from the line to the pin holes. It's not a hell of a lot, but 3/4" is enough to notice isn't it? Data collection continues...the more pics with verified plant, the better....my theory is just a theory "it's a Lynch Rd. thing" and I won't be mad if someone can shoot it down with great accuracy. One thing I know for sure...I know I am drilling the holes exactly where they were.
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Wow that’s quite a difference. Have to say I’ve never considered this topic, but certainly it could vary with ease from plant to plant. I like the centered look much better.
I really need to be careful in the pentastar then. It’s going to look stupid if I get it wrong. Currently it appears the spot I think looks to have filler in it might not be close to the measurements I’m seeing. It’s a surprisingly uncovered topic I’m finding.
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Here’s 9A134XXX with the visibly lower emblem location, which now seems typical for the plant. 9/27/69 build date per fender tag. Mine-September ‘68.
Safe to say Lynch Rd did this the entire model year? Maybe not, but appears to be from 9-68 to 9-69 at least.
On one hand, I’m a little shocked this is not already common knowledge that someone With a more restoration type of background can explain. I’ve been a hot rodder For most of my involvement with these cars/decades and only recently got into this side of things. I don’t think I know anything, but I do know how my car is and what I’m observing.
On the other hand, the GTX and the RT seem some of the least studied and maybe the least appreciated of the 68 to 70 mid sized supercars, probably because of the other vehicles in the Product line stealing the limelight.
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I happen to need the location and size of the holes for the pentastar. I can see what looks to be the mud they put over them. It’s been years since I had one off to see.
Did the alignment tab go to the front? Appears mine had a spot there. Probably be worth drilling it out since I bet a glue wouldn’t last. Going to take some balls to do this, so anybody have a fender to check? I can’t see the backside of mine. Thought I might get lucky and could break the filler out from behind. I have a fender to check and show measurements, but I don't know what plant it came from as it was not the original one from my car, and it was not from a GTX. So far there doesn't appear to be any controversy about the pentastar emblem so maybe it will be good enough.....
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