I'm not cutting those pistons. If i can't find the clearance another way i will simply put the flat tappet back in and run it. After all, it did run a 10.06 and pulled 1' wheelies. I was just looking for a bit more, but its turning into more trouble than i care to mess with at this point, but i will give my best. If i have to wait months for heads to show up, i simply wont buy any. These Victor heads are lame, i have never seen a combo with them that was impressive in any way. I dont have the answer why they dont make power, they just dont. I think its a velocity thing, but i dont think anyone has the answer. 600hp with Victor MW, no problem, 700 you are gonna work for it.

My 511 Victor motor made 686hp on the break in pull with a 4150 carb and ended up at 750na. Much more with nitrous.

Solid roller under .750 lift fwiw.

I still cant see how a smaller cam won't fit. Is this roller on a wider lobe sep?

This roller is on a 108 and the flat tappet is on a 110.

Thats the best combo yet with these heads. What does your combo look like if you dont mind posting? PM me the info if ya want. What has it ran with what weight and footbrake or t brake? One thing i can say is, this head seems to need compression to perform.

Hey Dave, I'm sure I have asked before but, what has your car run et & mph & race weight ?

Yes, best it did with flat tappet and foot braking was 10.06@134.22. The car weight at that time was 3380. My 60 was 1.42, My moroso slide rule shows 650hp at that weight.

Thanks, Moroso slide rule is NET FWhp, full exh,mech fan,ect ?? what is your set up, street car ?

I have always used wallace and thats fwhp with whatever set up you have for weight/mph, always comes out a tad more than the slide rule.....example>

Our '69RR, wedge motor dyno'd@695hp
3800lbs@line, through muffs to rear
all mechanical w/pump/alternator, street set up
with air cleaner.
Wallace shows 10.35@129 as 677fwhp on track...1.42 60's best so far.
Which is approx 20hp down from dyno no's which used same carb.

I will run it in a car this later summer. The engine and chassis dyno we use has shown corresponding numbers vs. 1/4 ET on everything else we have engine dyno's/wheel dyno'd and raced therefore I have no concerns that my red car won't run the number. I became sidetracked with my 68 GTS however the red car is next!



My motto is "never trust a torque converter" lol

700fwp with a SFT seems pretty good? I figured my setup would have gone 775 with the tunnel ram and two QFT 4150 based 1050's. I used the nitrous kit on my GTS so it's getting a turbo once the EFI is up and running.


Or a fogger lol...all that tubing is a lot of work.

What’s your compression and camshaft? My heads are 330cc port as well.

Dave, I thought the car that was running your heads before you bought them from Todd was in the 9’s ?

Here’s the way I see it.......
You’ve basically been whining about what underachievers those heads are since your car hit the track.

You’re convinced they’re what’s holding you back.
Maybe that’s true, maybe it’s not.

If you’re that unhappy with them, stop driving yourself nuts.
Just sell them off and get something you have confidence in.

I’m sure someone would be happy to have cnc ported MW Victors.

Todd told me they were used on a 511 in a roadrunner and running 9.80’s. What I found later was someone who knew the car said it was a well sorted track champion for like 20yrs. If that is true, then that motor more than likely runs same as mine. Your right, it is hard to find the 270’s except on eBay. Not going there. Best bet is a pair of fully ported -1 with new headers. No whining here, just want people to understand the max wedge victor is not all that. Just talk to any Mopar shop that has tried them. I have.

I hate to see you struggle with this but I'm not sure I know how to help. I've found that sorting stuff out on the dyno works the best for me but I understand that not everyone has access to a dyno and/or the resources to do that. But if a person can afford it, testing heads, cams, intakes etc on a dyno really is the best way to figure out what is happening. It can also be done at the track but it just takes more time and work changing parts over the fender rather than standing next to the engine. The list of parts that you have should work pretty well but sometimes a combo just doesn't work for some reason and it can be tough to find the culprit.

For sure Andy, my dyno is the track and it takes me a while to get out there. The problem with new heads is they all seem to have 78cc chambers, so without shaving i will lose my 12.5:1 compression. If i do shave them i end up back with very little clearance again. Right now just getting opinions from others and weighting my options. I'm really not liking this roller already because it has the same lobe lift at TDC as the flat tappet, so a new roller is in order or maybe even a new flat tappet. My Mopar engine shop said they have a couple different flat tappet grinds that have made 800hp on their dyno. Also with the availability of the TF270 and the -1 requiring new headers and who knows what else i might just keep what i have. I'll have some time next week to get some accurate data. Thanks again

My 511 is 11.5:1, cam is a solid roller that has about .725/.700 net lift with 1.7 rocker arms. The heads were CNC ported from Hughes. It was a PITA to get the valvetrain geometry right at that lift due to a 2.00" installed height. It was way off and the rocker hit the retainer so Mike at b3 hooked me up. Immight have been the first guy here to use him come to think of it. Pistons are Diamond -12.5cc dish, hellfire rings. Oiling system consists of a Milodon road race pan and Milodon pump cover for external oiling. Other than that nothing really out of the ordinary. Blem PEP crank, Cordoba block, RPM rods with ARP2000's and a mile of side clearance and bcr aluminum caps.


Did you see my -1's for sale on FABO?

Thanks, Jeremiah. No i did not see those. Why did or are you selling the -1 heads? I think those are superior to what we are using.

I am moving to a 13 degree head. Hope you can get this figured out!

Ok, thanks Jeremiah. Have the -1 heads been ported at all?

Dave, I tried to PM you, but it said you were over the limit. Whatever that means. If you go with a different head I may be interested in your victors.