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Re: Too light front weight! Where do I start? (Susp setup) [Re: gregsdart] #3009145
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Watch your video and then watch Al's Vette video. What I see is you have short flexible wheely bars set pretty high off the track and a lot of front end separation. Al has long stiff bars set close to the track and very little front end separation. Al's is like a prostock with little to no pitch rotation and yours is set up more like a super stocker that needs pitch rotation. Keep in mind that super stock is like a bracket race. They want to stick the tires for consistency but in heads-up classes they need wheel speed and black tracking to get the quickest E.T. That said, tie down the front end, get 4 really good shocks and better wheely bars and you are there.


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Re: Too light front weight! Where do I start? (Susp setup) [Re: GomangoCuda] #3009189
01/26/22 01:51 PM
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Might also look at removing some weight out back. See what you can do without. You only need enough support to hold the body in pace behind the rear end.


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Re: Too light front weight! Where do I start? (Susp setup) [Re: GomangoCuda] #3009193
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The Vettes bars are actually sprung, the springs are on the housing end, but they are adjustable and fairly stiff for sure. We really could use longer ones but car wont fit in the trailer if they get any longerand its already a process to cram in everything we need in a 22' trailer runaway

I do agree in your observations on the way they leave for a long time the red car needed to leave the same way to work. We simply could not control the housing/tire enough with the old shocks. Back a few years ago when it was a pump gas full exhaust deal running 8.80's it needed the pitch to work.As power increased it certainly became an issue for us.

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Re: Too light front weight! Where do I start? (Susp setup) [Re: Al_Alguire] #3009194
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Re: Too light front weight! Where do I start? (Susp setup) [Re: gregsdart] #3009305
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My wheelie bars are actually 66 inch long. Solid, but may go to a rather stiff spring to soften the transition. In the slow mo video i had them as high as they will go for a little fun and show.

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Re: Too light front weight! Where do I start? (Susp setup) [Re: gregsdart] #3009442
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I'd stiffen the springs if you ain't gonna use power management. .

Re: Too light front weight! Where do I start? (Susp setup) [Re: FastmOp] #3009457
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Originally Posted by FastmOp
I'd stiffen the springs if you ain't gonna use power management. .

front, rear, or both?


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Re: Too light front weight! Where do I start? (Susp setup) [Re: gregsdart] #3009462
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Originally Posted by gregsdart
Originally Posted by LA360
What about doing an Ultralink type set up Greg? Not sure if anyone remembers those?
not sure what that is?


Hodge Motorsports used to make them. Basically a swing arm and upper bars in place of a ladder bar. I don't think they really caught on though, as I don't think they're still made.


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Re: Too light front weight! Where do I start? (Susp setup) [Re: gregsdart] #3009492
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Both, springs are cheep. Easy to change. And have a big impact.

When I went aluminum block I had to add a hole to my front 4-link bracket.

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Re: Too light front weight! Where do I start? (Susp setup) [Re: FastmOp] #3009531
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Originally Posted by FastmOp
Both, springs are cheep. Easy to change. And have a big impact.

When I went aluminum block I had to add a hole to my front 4-link bracket.

Sounds like it had a huge effect?


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