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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: 2Bad360sfromNC] #3006647
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That looks good. You got the right size wheel and tire combo on there.

Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: 2Bad360sfromNC] #3006649
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Originally Posted by 2Bad360sfromNC
The ride is no worse, in my opinion, compared to the 15s--I have stock suspension.

I have never felt that the cars I've owned with low profile tires rode too harsh.

Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Kern Dog] #3006789
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I’m considering a set of second wheels due to the discovery of my factory road wheels being bent. I had to get new tires to even drive the car home since those were ancient. I had them mounted and all four are bent significantly. I love the old redlines, so thinking I’d run them locally and have a bigger set for long drives.

On the hub issue, seems the year one 17s should have the specs we need. Not sure I like those rims for some reason. Holley has a set of 15s or 16s that are road wheel look that I considering.

Tire rack has some 16s from American racing that I like, but want a black center instead of gray. Will probably call them and see if they can get them since AR lists those. Using tirerack would save some hassles with the mount and balance. They list several rims as being for plus 1-2 for our cars.


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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Kern Dog] #3006792
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Originally Posted by Frankenduster
Such a divisive issue.
Old school dudes that never take a corner faster than idle speed cling to their tall sidewall BF Goodrich tires.
Guys that like their cars to steer and stop better are willing to step outside of that narrow mindset.


Or purchase a modern car with suspension and tires designed to compliment one another.


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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: John_Kunkel] #3006818
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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Originally Posted by Frankenduster
Such a divisive issue.
Old school dudes that never take a corner faster than idle speed cling to their tall sidewall BF Goodrich tires.
Guys that like their cars to steer and stop better are willing to step outside of that narrow mindset.


Or purchase a modern car with suspension and tires designed to compliment one another.


Like a Kia?

Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Sniper] #3006819
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One pic below is the equivalent of a Muscle Mopar with 15" wheels . The other is a Muscle Mopar with oversize wheels.

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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: 2boltmain] #3006838
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In reality, mopar muscle on 15's

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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: 2boltmain] #3006840
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: 2Bad360sfromNC] #3006864
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Originally Posted by 2Bad360sfromNC
Most 15" street tires you can actually find now are the farthest thing from sticky. I like 15s fine, but I can do much harder braking with these 17s before I lock the wheels. I do have the later "cop" 11.75" rotors up front now, but the tires were a bigger help. The biggest braking improvement on a few of my cars has been more traction. Of course they do handle better. The ride is no worse, in my opinion, compared to the 15s--I have stock suspension.


Looks good, what size tires are you running? I'm thinking about those wheels for my car.

Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: John_Kunkel] #3006880
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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Or purchase a modern car with suspension and tires designed to compliment one another.


This kind of undercuts the entire hot rodding philosophy, don't you think?


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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Sniper] #3006893
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I look at it as three different styles or tastes. 1. Stock, naturally you know what that is. 2. Appropriately Day-2, with 14" or 15" period style wheels, Torque Thrust, Slots, Keystone, Chrome steel, Crager SS, etc., 3, Resto-Mod look, with low profile tires 55, 45, 40 series sidewall, and 17" or larger rims. I'm a Day-2 Old School DUDE because I bought my first Mopar in 1969 and not within the last 15 or 20 years, I ordered my '69 Road Runner in late March of '69 and got wheel covers knowing I was going to order "mag" wheels as soon as I burned off the redline bias rear tires, which didn't take long with 3.91 Suregrip, street races and trips to the track PID and Keystone Raceway. I grew old and set in my ways and never really liked most of the Resto-Mod looks (yes maybe a few) but it really got old when every "bitchin" type TV show's first order of customizing was to add big freaking low sidewall tires and wheels. EVERYONE OF THEM. I'll take a Day-2 look over anything for a '60's early '70's muscle car or even a non-performance car or truck of that era any day.....2. I'm not going with low profile tires on my Day-2 GTX just wouldn't look right to me, seems there are a few other OLD DUDES here that feel the same. Oh and BTW I hate that OLD SoCal word DUDE it's SoDated SoDude please don't call me DUDE laugh2 punkrocka

(I think this is really a GREEN MOPAR thread in disguise.....I like GREEN MOPARS too grin)

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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Sniper] #3007084
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Originally Posted by Sniper
In reality, mopar muscle on 15's

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Last one then Ill stop. Any vintage Mopar when one adds bigger wheels.

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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: 2boltmain] #3007135
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: ZIPPY] #3007166
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I like the white Challenger 2bad360s posted: wheel wells filled, got some sidewall, in-period wheel design.
17" wheels on the old cars doesn't bug me, but getting enough sidewall without going to SUV tires seems an issue.
Been agonizing over a wheel choice for my '69 RR for months, but I'll probably just go with 15" Magnums.
Initially I wanted something rarely seen; but no luck unless I want to spend over 2 grand for some custom race wheels that'd be period-correct.
Finding proper trim rings & even certain wheels has been basically impossible lately, too.

Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: MarkZ] #3007170
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Originally Posted by MarkZ
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Or purchase a modern car with suspension and tires designed to compliment one another.


This kind of undercuts the entire hot rodding philosophy, don't you think?


If the goal is handling, get a modern muscle car...if you just wanna cruise and have fun, get a rod or early muscle car.


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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: John_Kunkel] #3007358
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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Originally Posted by MarkZ
Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Or purchase a modern car with suspension and tires designed to compliment one another.


This kind of undercuts the entire hot rodding philosophy, don't you think?


If the goal is handling, get a modern muscle car...if you just wanna cruise and have fun, get a rod or early muscle car.

No.
If the goal is to improve on the handling ability of a classic, shorter sidewall tires in a diameter similar to stock is one way to go. I could run a 295-40-15 if someone made that size but it would be a very short tire with large gaps between the tires and the body.
No thanks.

Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: Kern Dog] #3007364
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Before we go any further I have to give you props for your wheels for putting left and right side wheels on the proper side up beer That's one thing I don't like about a lot of wheels both OEM and aftermarket. Hate it when it's a wheel that is correct on the driver's side and backwards on the passenger's side. Worse yet is when one of each ends up on both sides blush wink Okay back to it smile

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Thank you. It also means that each wheel is unique to each corner since width and backspacing are different front to rear. If I ever bend a rim, I might have to buy a different set if I can't get a single.

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Originally Posted by Frankenduster
Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Originally Posted by MarkZ
Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Or purchase a modern car with suspension and tires designed to compliment one another.


This kind of undercuts the entire hot rodding philosophy, don't you think?


If the goal is handling, get a modern muscle car...if you just wanna cruise and have fun, get a rod or early muscle car.

No.
If the goal is to improve on the handling ability of a classic, shorter sidewall tires in a diameter similar to stock is one way to go.


The analogy that I'm tempted to us is "Lipstick on a pig".


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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims [Re: John_Kunkel] #3007625
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Not as worthless as lipstick on a pig. Mopar muscle can be improved substantially with radial tires, lightweight rims, high quality shocks (Koni), bigger torsion bars, anti-sway bars and various chassis stiffening measures. It takes work and money but it isn't impossible.

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