talk me into or out of 17 inch rims
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so I found a set of rims that fit mopars that might be around 300 bucks. 17x8 rims with 0 offset, so 4.5 inch back spacing that is correct for mopars.
I had thought if I found cheap enough rims, I could find cheaper tires in the 17's, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
I currently run 255 60r15's. the equivalent 17 is a 255 50 but it is more than the cooper cobra's I would get in 15's instead.
if I go to a smaller tire, 225 45 r17, I could get away with tires I have never heard of for under 100 bucks a tire. I would have to step up to 120 bucks a tire to get say Dunlop's, which including the cost of rims, again is more than the cobra's.
is it just a wider selection of tires that makes people jump to the bigger rims? do I really care, just changing tires every 7 years or so?
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims
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What the wheels look like and what they are going on would make a huge difference to me. Some stuff the larger diameter wheels just don't look right, but others are OK. Bigger diameter wheels has almost always included higher priced tires, the two seem to go hand in hand.
Without seeing the wheels and the vehicle, the answer is: NO its probably going to look like crap, and its going to ride rougher. What are the overall goals for the car? My Charger does not ride rough. It handles quite well too.
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims
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The only way personally that I would put larger wheels on is if I could fill the back side with LARGER BRAKES. To me there's something ugly about little tiny brake discs and brake drums showing behind BIG wheels. One of the things I remember was Audi coming out with a big, fast V8 and the largest wheels and tires that were commonly available were 15". That restricted them from putting bigger brake rotors on because they wouldn't fit inside of a 15" wheel. What the did was flip the caliper to the inside of the disc and make the disc larger. That said to me that larger 16", 17", 18" and 19" wheels were developed to accommodate LARGER BRAKES(discs) and not just for style. Look at feets' MB and the size of the brakes that fill up the entire inside/backside of those big wheel, looks purpose built when you have brakes that match the wheel size. Anything else to me just doesn't look right. One of my cars came with 15" wheels, I put 16" wheels with snow tires on them and it looked okay, not too out of sort but 16" were an OEM option. I decided I would put another new set of summer (not all season) tires on and ordered 17". Got them, put them on the car, the brake discs looked tiny and the car looked PIMP. Off they came didn't even drive 10 feet with them my wife just about threw up and I sent them back and got 16" wheels and tires. Hey just my opinion, everyone has their own taste and your car. Hey get the big wheels and big brakes much safer with good working big brakes. Here's the inverted caliper Audi V8 brake system.
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims
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What car and what wheels? To be honest - to me these days 15" wheels look puny on rides in a lot of circumstances. I'm 53 so not into donks but i really appreciate a bit larger with proper tires.
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims
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What car and what wheels? To be honest - to me these days 15" wheels look puny on rides in a lot of circumstances. I'm 53 so not into donks but i really appreciate a bit larger with proper tires. What car and what wheels? Best point yet,
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims
[Re: A12]
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this rim on this car just a fair weather cruiser. it has the 11 inch disc up front and the tms rear disc kit. currently wearing 15's. I guess I started looking because there are only 3 choices in 255 60 r15's now. 160 bucks and up. BFG's look good, but handle poorly in the rain. cooper got bought out now, and firestone doesn't even carry the firehawk themselves. I supposed MT is a 4th option, but I never really liked the lettering on those. I saw some inexpensive 16 and 17 inch tires and thought if I could get into wheels cheap enough, why not. but as I tried to find those inexpensive tires, (and maybe it is just right now being bad), I couldn't find any, with manufacture's I knew. so maybe it isn't worth it.
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims
[Re: Andrewh]
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17's on this. 225-55-17 on front and 255-50-17 on the rear. When I changed the front brakes to disc, I had to up-size from the factory 14's just because they would not fit. It was hard to find anything in tire options (anymore) for 15's. So, with limited 16's out there, jumped to 17's.
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims
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so maybe it isn't worth it.
If the goal is less expensive tires, it probably ain't gonna happen. The lowest price on modern tires is usually going to be some kind of a take-off, like police car 18s that required a plug and because of that are no longer fit for police use, half worn takeoff police car tires, and that type of thing. .....used to be widely available on ebay if you're into that kind of thing. I looked, but wasn't into it....
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims
[Re: Andrewh]
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I'm running 17 x 8" wheels on the back with 255-50-17's and could have actually gone wider on the tires without any issues.
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims
[Re: AndyF]
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I would have to buy the set, and apparently this company is trash to deal with on returns. I have to measure my current rims for the back spacing on them. if I go with the "common" size 17's that places push, it would be a smaller tire anyway than the 255 60's I already run. using https://tiresize.com/wheel-offset-calculator/it says it would be in .55 inches further in anyway. but that is assuming my current rims are 4.5 inch back spacing too.
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Re: talk me into or out of 17 inch rims
[Re: Andrewh]
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I had to scrounge some wheels from my buddies to make some trial fits. I think on the rear I ran an 8mm offset. Fronts were zero.
Its not like the old days when you can go to a tire store and they have tons of stuff in stock. I ended up getting everything from Discount Tire Direct. They mounted, balanced and shipped them right to my house for way less than anyone local would do anything. Was a flawless deal.
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