Re: Chrysler going electric
[Re: Mastershake340]
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Agree Mastershake. Same as Caddy is doing. I don't get it but then again, I'm a bit biased. There was a Yahoo article today on the Ford pickup. Perhaps a missprint but they said 97k for a Lightning and Ford is setting up to sell 150k of them. For 97k that truck better last a lifetime. Now your "Halo" brands, yes, you can ask more for them but let's be real. The wife and I make nice money and I'm hoping to retire pretty well. The reason being that I have so far paid over 20k for only 1 car. Who the heck is buying all this stuff??
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Re: Chrysler going electric
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01/06/22 07:32 AM
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since the new 55 MPG standard, and NOx emissions requirement announced last week Stellantis has to go this way. Building a gasoline/ diesel that can meet both new NOx and MPG is practically impossible, at least for less than $100,000 each. Many citizens do not realize than new gasoline vehicles were outlawed last week. Perhaps some citizens do because the prices of better used gasoline vehicles are growing to previously unjustifiable levels. Gasoline vehicles are not being outlawed in India, China or Africa, nor is coal burning. CO2 emissions on Earth will not go down.
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Re: Chrysler going electric
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01/06/22 08:05 AM
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since the new 55 MPG standard, and NOx emissions requirement announced last week Stellantis has to go this way. Building a gasoline/ diesel that can meet both new NOx and MPG is practically impossible, at least for less than $100,000 each. Many citizens do not realize than new gasoline vehicles were outlawed last week. Perhaps some citizens do because the prices of better used gasoline vehicles are growing to previously unjustifiable levels. Gasoline vehicles are not being outlawed in India, China or Africa, nor is coal burning. CO2 emissions on Earth will not go down. Wait...you are being a realist. There is no room for a realist is this political climate. Pointing out the obvious is not allowed.
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Re: Chrysler going electric
[Re: klunick]
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01/06/22 02:20 PM
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Agree Mastershake. Same as Caddy is doing. I don't get it but then again, I'm a bit biased. There was a Yahoo article today on the Ford pickup. Perhaps a missprint but they said 97k for a Lightning and Ford is setting up to sell 150k of them. For 97k that truck better last a lifetime. Now your "Halo" brands, yes, you can ask more for them but let's be real. The wife and I make nice money and I'm hoping to retire pretty well. The reason being that I have so far paid over 20k for only 1 car. Who the heck is buying all this stuff?? From Car and Driver: "Ford has announced prices for the 2022 F-150 Lightning, including Pro, XLT, Lariat, and Platinum trims. The base price is $41,669 including a mandatory $1695 destination charge. The XLT starts at $54,669 and the Lariat and Platinum versions will be considerably more expensive—a loaded model starts above $92,000." I have read that they have 200,000 reservations. However those folks just know have the ability to turn those in to firm orders, I have not seen any numbers on that.
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Re: Chrysler going electric
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01/10/22 10:44 AM
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Many independent shops as well as new car dealers are not capable of "Diagnostic Troubleshooting" and fire the parts cannon- all the while making the customer pay for their failed attempts and lack of ability. This will continue to get worse. My hats off to you guys who dig in and hunt down a problem to its root cause.
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Re: Chrysler going electric
[Re: 2boltmain]
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01/10/22 10:56 AM
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I'm sure that somewhere, sometime, some of the EV supporters are going to claim, rightfully so, that ditching the IC powerplant will lead to greater reliability and serviceability due to fewer components in an EV. My thought though is that this is just for the powerplant. All the gee-whiz crap, lane avoidance, minimum stopping distance, GPS, and on and on and on will be in an EV just as it is in an IC and will be just as big of a PITA.
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Re: Chrysler going electric
[Re: moparx]
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01/10/22 12:42 PM
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doesn't Cadillac have a semi-self driving cruise control now ? Yes it is called Super Cruise. Ford's is called Blue Cruise. Tesla's is called Autopilot which is a step below what they call Full Self Driving Capability which I don't think is rolled out yet. Most everyone has adaptive cruise control with "lane keeping" that will keep the car centered in the lane.
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Re: Chrysler going electric
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01/10/22 09:06 PM
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Many independent shops as well as new car dealers are not capable of "Diagnostic Troubleshooting" and fire the parts cannon- all the while making the customer pay for their failed attempts and lack of ability. This will continue to get worse. My hats off to you guys who dig in and hunt down a problem to its root cause. …..and 95% of the people that come in the door expect miracles under the 1hr of diag they sign up for.
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Re: Chrysler going electric
[Re: 6PakBee]
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01/10/22 09:46 PM
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The best argument I see against the incoming onslaught of EV is the grid is in no shape to handle it - it's a damn good one too.
Last edited by MarkZ; 01/10/22 09:49 PM.
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