Re: rear end choices
[Re: CMcAllister]
#2988127
11/23/21 09:18 AM
11/23/21 09:18 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,871 MI, usa
dvw
master
|
master
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,871
MI, usa
|
I build my own Dana's from truck stuff. Cost me right around $1000, plus a core housing. The latest super duper 9" is great, but expensive. At 550hp 2900lb, foot brake? A 8 3/4 will go a longtime. My street/strip car weighs 3885 and runs 11.0s. It's never hurt the 8 3/4. Been racing it on/off since the 90's. Pure race at normal bracket race power level? Dana is the most cost effective. Doug
Last edited by dvw; 11/23/21 09:20 AM.
|
|
|
Re: rear end choices
[Re: CMcAllister]
#2988128
11/23/21 09:21 AM
11/23/21 09:21 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 30,474 Florida STAYcation
dOc !
The village idiot's idiot
|
The village idiot's idiot
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 30,474
Florida STAYcation
|
[quote][/quote] Weight, horsepower, trans configuration, radials or bias, track prep. seaMac... supposedly 1800 lbs - at the starting line ... 500 hp(change oil once a season) ... footbrake trans ... big meats and good hook .... ?
|
|
|
Re: rear end choices
[Re: dvw]
#2988169
11/23/21 11:18 AM
11/23/21 11:18 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 95 Cumming Georgia
cspracer
OP
member
|
OP
member
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 95
Cumming Georgia
|
Thanks dvw. I kind of agree and if I truly felt I would never want to go beyond footbrake I think the 8 3/4 is the best option.
But like everyone else, I know once I go 6.9 in the 1/8th, I will want 6.8. If I get used to 6.8 I will want 6.5, then after running there a few months, surely 6.4 is within reach. After that, I would need to upgrade the car due to safety rules, and of course, once that is done, running the 6.0 index would make the most sense, but then I would want that time slip showing the car in the 5's and, well as you can see, this never ends.
When it comes to my racing, I have not yet found my limit, and each time I think I felt a real thrill, my thirst for more comes back! I have driven cars significantly faster than mine and am not scared. I doubt I will ever be that consistent driver who runs for points or is satisfied with a car that is always steady and perfect week after week. I also do not have unlimited funds, so budget is always a consideration. I am not a car builder, this is simply an amazing hobby for me. Unlike many folks here, I do not even work in the automotive industry.
With that in mind, I am thinking "Build a car that I could run about any engine in from a safety perspective, with a heavy duty drive shaft, rear end, axles and a cage that will be safe for anyone who drives it," (I am old enough now to realize this car should out live me, and I want to leave it a safe and fast as possible for my future family member, whoever that maybe)
Then depending on how life plays out, I can focus on the engine. I like the idea of fixing the rear-end once and being done.
1968 - 383 Roadrunner 4 speed street car, Dad bought new 1970 - 440 Roadrunner drag footbrake car 6.99 1/8th 2016 - Hemi RAM 1500 - Hauls all the toys North Georgia / Central NC
|
|
|
Re: rear end choices
[Re: Locomotion]
#2988242
11/23/21 01:57 PM
11/23/21 01:57 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,591 north of coder
moparx
"Butt Crack Bob"
|
"Butt Crack Bob"
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,591
north of coder
|
so how much hp can a guy have before a dana is needed in my charger ? 350 ? 400 ? just getting an idea so i can save up for one........ i know a new driveshaft with 1350 yokes is in my future, but i don't want to have to buy two of them. although i have thought about spacing the rear back about 3/8-1/2" to center the wheels in the quarter openings. would that allow the 8 3/4 driveshaft to fit the dana ? i'm hoping traction will be an issue at first, saving the rear. i know this heavy tank won't be a 10 second car, but i don't want to be fixing things that make big chunks and bad noises all the time.
|
|
|
Re: rear end choices
[Re: StealthWedge67]
#2988257
11/23/21 02:33 PM
11/23/21 02:33 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,933 A shed in England
Tig
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,933
A shed in England
|
My experience is that weight kills 8-3/4’s. If it were an A-body you were working with, I might say the 8-3/4 is worthy of investment. In a B-Body, I’d suggest moving to the Dana. 9” in a 70 B-body???…. Nah.
Weight / Torque / Traction can kill a Dana too....
'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
|
|
|
Re: rear end choices
[Re: Tig]
#2988330
11/23/21 05:14 PM
11/23/21 05:14 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,286 Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
I Win
|
I Win
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,286
Bend,OR USA
|
My experience is that weight kills 8-3/4’s. If it were an A-body you were working with, I might say the 8-3/4 is worthy of investment. In a B-Body, I’d suggest moving to the Dana. 9” in a 70 B-body???…. Nah.
Weight / Torque / Traction can kill a Dana too.... Some guys can screw up a 50 ton wrecking ball in a sand box with a feather, huh JUST KIDDING
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
|
|
|
Re: rear end choices
[Re: dOc !]
#2988436
11/23/21 08:59 PM
11/23/21 08:59 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,683 Fulton County, PA
CMcAllister
Mr. Helpful
|
Mr. Helpful
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,683
Fulton County, PA
|
Weight, horsepower, trans configuration, radials or bias, track prep. seaMac... supposedly 1800 lbs - at the starting line ... 500 hp(change oil once a season) ... footbrake trans ... big meats and good hook .... ? You could use a 7.25 in that. We used to call them "sissy rears". Guys would cut them down, weld the gears up, and use them in Cub Cadets with a 2 cylinder Kohler for lawn mower pulling. 8.75 should live in that. 12 bolt, even a 10 bolt GM. 8.8 Ferd would work. Easier to find, cheaper than an 8.75. Or just get all aftermarket 8.75 stuff. Moser does a housing. Randys does a center.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
|
|
|
Re: rear end choices
[Re: dOc !]
#2988524
11/23/21 11:34 PM
11/23/21 11:34 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
Master
|
Master
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
|
I run the alum 8 3/4 in my race car but the car is light.. runs 8.90s and has a 1.19 60 ft.. I also run the 9" in my street rod set up to run 10.0.. both cars are back braced.. heavy cars will break parts so if you can make the car lighter you should
Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 11/23/21 11:39 PM.
|
|
|
Re: rear end choices
[Re: dOc !]
#2988536
11/24/21 12:14 AM
11/24/21 12:14 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,683 Fulton County, PA
CMcAllister
Mr. Helpful
|
Mr. Helpful
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 11,683
Fulton County, PA
|
I’ll get that up on the rack and pull the cover .... supposed to be a big $ 12 bolt !
Well when YOU were a young gEeZeR .. those 12 bolts were goodies ? And plentiful. Like 340s. Couldn't walk from one side of the shop to the other without tripping over one.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
|
|
|
|
|